Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term?

[Botnake]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

[Fiatless]

Do we have the same struggle?

Yeah, it happens sometimes, especially when I am in the mode of chasing losses. At that time it became very difficult to follow the personal plan. I have also faced the temptation of increasing it when there is a feeling that I will win big. But from experience, I have understood that discipline or self control is very important in gambling. In fact, I see it as a behaviour that all gamblers need to cultivate to enjoy gambling. Indiscipline can easily lead to regrettable actions.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake.

What are you betting on?

If you are playing casino games, managing your bankroll well will only help you to make your money last longer but not to win money in the long run. Self-control and bankroll management can be used to win money in disciplines such as sports betting, poker, or horse racing. They are a necessary but not sufficient condition.

So it all goes together but if you're trying to do it with casino games it's an oxymoron. No matter how much self-control and bankroll management you do, you won't make money in the long run.

[_act_]

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

This has happened to me before several time until I stopped it and have control over it. It happens when I am losing which is when I will want to use means to win all the money that I have lost back. This will make me to not be patient and gradually increasing the money that I am using to bet. After losing all the bankroll, you can think of depositing more money which will be the continuation of losses. Just try you best to avoid being a victim of what can let you lose the money that you do not want to lose.

[Slow death]

I have my self-control very well up to date, fortunately I can only place bets on the days I determine and when the games stop I also stop placing bets and take my vacation. So at least regarding my self-control I am very happy that they are within acceptable limits. But regarding profits, this is something that I do not make plans because I see that in the long run I will have more losses than profits and I resigned myself to this early on, because I understand that gambling is just entertainment, it is better for the person to understand this early on.

[KTChampions]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

2% of deposit per bet on average? You are incredibly naive. If you can achieve such a level of advantage over the bookmaker (approximately 6-10%) then you can stamp money almost guaranteed in the medium/long distance. The only reason why you can’t do this is not problems with discipline, but the efficiency of the strategy. Simply based on knowledge of how bookmakers/casinos work, it is clear that a strategy with such an advantage in favor of the player simply cannot exist (otherwise the casino/bookmaker would go bankrupt).

[o48o]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

I honestly don't believe that being a long term winner in any gambling is a skill you can learn, unlike self-control.
Even with sports betting, where you can win more games, odds in sport books even your profits relation to risks you are taking. And if you are in profit long term (let's say in 1 year). How would you even know if it's because of your skill or luck? There's no way of proving it's not luck, and when your luck turns, would you just think that you have lost your skills and you need a new strategy?

Trusting that we are in charge of visible results of our actions is hardcoded so deeply by evolution, that we see results when there are none. Other evolutionary trick is seeing patterns where there are none. That's where we often found our strategies from. Reality is more complex, and we might not even recognize a working pattern, because it's too random for our brains.

[JoyMarsha]

What self control can do for you towards gambling is to help you not to spend more than you have bargained for, in gambling. You gamble with less amount like 3% of your weekly income.

Winning in the long run just because you have self control doesn't usually work that way, except when being lucky for a gambling win comes. You can have self control and still struggle for a gamble win for years.

[Solosanz]

But, you said you will win in long term, so how does self control matter, if you can beat the house.

I think it's fine to increase your risk if your winning chance is getting higher and higher, it's called adaptation.

You can always go back to 2% if the 5% or 10% risk doesn't work on you, there's nothing wrong with trial and error, you need find the highest limit you could take.

[coin-investor]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Well, its the other way around for me, because even if I learned how to control myself, I cannot make myself win long term; you have to be extremely lucky to win long term.
Self-control is a gradual process; there will be a point in your playing time that you need to be in total control and you can do that, but there's no guarantee that you can learn how to win successively, between luck and concerted effort; luck is very illusive.
Its a case-to-case basis, and I based it on my experience. After losing a lot of money and time, I learned to control myself, but for many years I'm still struggling to find a winning formula.

[Sim_card]

Do we have the same struggle?

As a gambler self control is very important and if you cannot control your gambling activities, you will not be able to control your emotions and your bankroll, because they work hand in hand. Your problem is thay maybe, you are chasing your losses or you are gambling to make profit by all means. If all thesw are in you head, there is no way that you will be able to have self control when gambling.

[Awaklara]

gamblers who can control themselves will not necessarily achieve long-term success. when you try to be disciplined with the bets and allocations you give, it will only affect how long you can play. this is especially true in casino games. there is nothing wrong with trying to be disciplined in determining the amount of bets or allocations we provide. it is actually good not to be excessive. but all of them do not guarantee to win in the long run. casino games will not give you what you expect.

[Z_MBFM]

Do we have the same struggle?

Yeah, it happens sometimes, especially when I am in the mode of chasing losses. At that time it became very difficult to follow the personal plan. I have also faced the temptation of increasing it when there is a feeling that I will win big. But from experience, I have understood that discipline or self control is very important in gambling. In fact, I see it as a behaviour that all gamblers need to cultivate to enjoy gambling. Indiscipline can easily lead to regrettable actions.

When the amount deposited for gambling ends up 60% by losing then it becomes very difficult to save yourself from panic. At that time I started placing bigger bets because at that time it seems that if there is a big win, the loss will be almost recovered but it is not fulfilled most of the time, on the contrary, the entire amount has to be lost. It is almost impossible to find a gambler who has not panicked. Because such techniques are used in gambling games, no matter how much you control yourself, you will panic at some point and loss everything

[Accardo]

Self control is what I'd chime into as winning is something we can't change, it depends on the house, but disciplining our self is hard, yet, with time it could be mastered. As a gambler who is starting out with self control, first restricting access to money should be a plan. Maybe confiding with a friend whose concern would be to limit how much you'd spend on gambling. Given time your self conscious begin to adapt to such a lifestyle and cement it in your memory. Just like a bad habit, consistently executing the right act will build in us a good habit.

[Akbarkoe]

Self -control is the most difficult because it will affect victory, because victory will get a great opportunity if self -control is much better and has a distrust of everything both from defeat and victory, control will be related to emotions and emotions will be related and mental and mental and mental Mental will be related to how the brain and heart work and it will affect how we play.

[BABY SHOES]

Yeah it's like we're facing the same predicament, even though it's a consistent strategy in the beginning but once we're in the middle of the journey we're violating it by increasing the bankroll because we're not satisfied with the previous game then the level of discipline will fall apart.

I don't even think about long term winnings because it will come with how we manage our bankroll properly.
The problem is... sometimes we forget that by setting the percentage, it is difficult for us to forget, including the monthly bankroll, for example, the initial 2% has increased due to uncontrolled gambling.

[Tungbulu]

If you ask me I’d say majority of gamblers struggle with this, regardless of how responsible they are with their gambling or how much self control they possess, there’ll always come in a gambler’s life when he’ll definitely go o against his own gambling rules and exceed their limits, I feel it’s just normal and this doesn’t mean he gambler is irresponsible or lacks self control. This is often because every gambling session has its own unique experience and thrill that it offers so you can’t expect the results and outcomes to be exactly the same, I think what’s more important is that, even if the gambler go out of his way, he doesn’t take actions or make decisions that’ll end up in severe financial distress and this isn’t supposed to be a frequent occurrence, perhaps once in a while but not all the time.

[robelneo]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

I think you have not yet arrived at the point where you lose a lot of money and you need to change your mindset and your habit. There are proven practices that will make you control yourself in gambling. If you think you are losing control, its time to rehabiliate yourself until you gain control.
Gaining control should be our main concern because it freed us from gambling headaches because attaining long-term winning has no guarantee that it can happen. You can keep trying, but there's no guarantee that you can succeed.

[Oshosondy]

Self control is what I'd chime into as winning is something we can't change, it depends on the house, but disciplining our self is hard, yet, with time it could be mastered. As a gambler who is starting out with self control, first restricting access to money should be a plan. Maybe confiding with a friend whose concern would be to limit how much you'd spend on gambling.

Lifestyle may not change anything until you just want to have the discipline. When I was addicted, I gamble when I am at anywhere but now that I am not longer addicted, I do not gamble when I am alone at home unless I want to gamble. I have this kind of mind and lifestyle that helped. I did not restrict myself from my own money but I wasted it on gambling. When I do not get addicted anymore and when I was trying to quite addiction, I still have the money with me. Maybe it could be a process from some people, but I stopped when I had it on my mind to stop and it worked because I noticed I had to if I do not want to destroy my future.

[Su-asa]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

Sometimes it is hard to discipline ourselves especially when we see that the potential winning is not up to the kind of amount that we would like. And if we understand that the more we add games the more risky the bet becomes, then we think of increasing the amount we wagers with to 5% to 10% of the total amount we set aside for gambling that wee or that month.
However, there are situations we might find ourselves that will probably be difficult for us to make decisions through our instincts, so we intend to do emotionally. And this is what really causes addiction to gamblers. Although greed is involved that's why many bettors want to win big on gamble no matter the cost, and they are overconfident that they will win. When someone becomes overconfident he won't have the time to checkmate the kind of options he have whether he's going to lose or not. The trust is emotion can make a gambler make a dangerous decision that will will to losses and more losses.