Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term?

[Davidvictorson]

Answering the question from the topic. The harder one to learn is self control. You can be experiencing a winning streak and because you are experiencing that, you will assure yourself that immediately you experience your first loss, that you are going to quit that moment. But that is not what happens when the experience the first loss. No, you convince yourself that you should try one more time. One more time turns to 10 more times, and from being on a winning streak some hours ago you are now on a consistent losing streak beacuse of a lack of self-control. In gambling a lack of self control can be simply defined as the inability of the gambler to walk away either when they are winning or when they are losing.

[EluguHcman]

Self control on gambling is a cultural act that helps gamblers to maintain formal formations of their gambling habits so they could keep good records of their gambling histories and still maintains remarkable habits in a long run.

No gamblers has ever intentionally initiated an addictive gambling of themselves, they are usually lost control of themselves without realizing the direction they are up to and not until they are conscience enough to recall how they responsibly started and how they are about ending up irresponsibly before they would be able to recover their lost paths and this recovery is a certainty a motion of realizing itself and take control of themselves.

[viljy]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

The answer to this question depends on which gambling game you are playing. Self-control is certainly difficult to maintain. However, self-control (regarding bankroll) only makes sense in games where the long-term goal (increasing your balance) is achievable, such as poker. Experienced poker players can even reach up to 30% ROI.
But, for example, in roulette, the long-term goal (to beat the casino) is unattainable. Roulette is working against you in the long run. Winning roulette strategies, on the contrary, rely on a high variance of some types of bets, and involve short sessions, but with multiple bets (complete bet).
Therefore, self-control, as a consequence of a long-term strategy, makes sense only in some gambling games, as does the long-term strategy itself.

[Smartprofit]

I have heard from many businessmen that when building business processes, the weakest link is a person. The human factor has ruined more than one or two businesses...

That is why experienced businessmen try to automate and robotize their business (their production) as much as possible.... Why does this happen? The human psyche does not like monotonous, repetitive actions. A person experiences emotions that are described by the word "boredom". Meanwhile, we gamble not for boredom, but for entertainment!

I also try to avoid boring, monotonous and repetitive actions.

In my opinion, you should not harm your psyche even for the sake of a big win. After all, we gamble to get pleasure and joy!

[aioc]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

I'm surprised at your struggle. There are ways or methods to gain control of yourself in gambling, but there are no books, videos, or expert advice that can give you an exact way to win consistently. With the help of friends, family, and a professional, you can gain self-control, but there is nothing in this world that can help you have a consistent winning.
I advise that you take your time first and do something about your self-control, because with persistence, you can eventually manage it.

[len01]

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

I am sure most gamblers here experience the same difficulties as when I bet consistently on every football match (domestic) with a bet of $1- $5 and in the big league bet more $5- $10. But sometimes I am tempted to bet bigger in domestic matches when the top team plays a weak team and bet more than $10. While in my own rules in domestic matches the maximum bet is $5.

Well, that's a simple example or difficulty that I also experience. But I have other rules to cover losses if the bet loses, such as betting on other matches with smaller bets but at higher odds. So when my first bet loses, there are still bets on other matches that cover the losses.

The conclusion is that everyone must have difficulty in terms of self-control but we must still hold the responsibility to have other rules so that in the long run our budget remains the same.

[Maslate]

The conclusion is that everyone must have difficulty in terms of self-control but we must still hold the responsibility to have other rules so that in the long run our budget remains the same.

When betting, bankroll management is basically your budgeting strategy, and it’s the gambling term for it. But let’s not get stuck on just that because even if you’re great at managing your bankroll, if you can’t consistently pick winning bets, you’ll still lose eventually.

So learn how to balance, managing your funds well and making smart bets. And yes, self-control can be tough at times, but it’s a skill you can develop, just like fine-tuning your strategy to stay consistent in picking winners.

[peter0425]

When betting, bankroll management is basically your budgeting strategy, and it’s the gambling term for it. But let’s not get stuck on just that because even if you’re great at managing your bankroll, if you can’t consistently pick winning bets, you’ll still lose eventually.

People with difficulty controlling themselves need something to follow no matter what happens and so having a strict budget may help them keep on track otherwise they might go crazy and just spend excessively more than what they intended to do.

So learn how to balance, managing your funds well and making smart bets. And yes, self-control can be tough at times, but it’s a skill you can develop, just like fine-tuning your strategy to stay consistent in picking winners.

If you have gotten on top of your self control and you are not that self impulsive anymore then you can start learning how to adjust your bets appropriately without being excessive about it.

[Y3shot]

What self control can do for you towards gambling is to help you not to spend more than you have bargained for, in gambling. You gamble with less amount like 3% of your weekly income.

Winning in the long run just because you have self control doesn't usually work that way, except when being lucky for a gambling win comes. You can have self control and still struggle for a gamble win for years.

Normally winning in the long run is not even something that is even very easy, this also happens as result of luck. For me I think the most important thing that matters a lot in gambling is self control,  when a gambler is planning or having interest of gambling the first thing that needs to be consider is to learn to have self control,  when this is there one can think of how to learn of making winning in the long-term but when lacks self control in gambling it can run one down so much. When there is no self control one can easily become addicted to gambling and can also take gambling as a way of having income which can also have a negative effect in one's life. Self control in gambling is everything.

[TelolettOm]

I feel the same way. Self-control is more difficult. especially if it is related to my emotional and mental condition at that time, I often lose control to control myself, until I don't realize it, ending in regret. And this has happened several times. While basically,. developing our self-control in gambling is to maintain our responsibility. But in fact, it's not that easy.

Self-control itself includes several things that must be considered. And this may sometimes be disturbed when we are in an unstable condition, such as in:

• Self-monitoring, especially in emotional triggers
• Mindfulness and also awareness to be increased
• Emotional management in which it's indeed quite difficult and a dilemma.

but, yes, no matter what, we must be able to make the condition better and not lose the self-control, or our strategies in gambling will be exactly lost.

[vs2014]

In fact, a gambler who cannot control his gambling process will not achieve long term success. Because when he loses bets repeatedly, he will control himself and stop betting. Some gamblers quit gambling altogether after winning a few times, thereby falling short of achieving long-term success. There's nothing wrong with trying to be disciplined so it's actually better to limit the amount of bets or allocations we pay so we don't go overboard. Moreover, it is true that a casino will not give you the games that you get the most from.

[jcojci]

Every time you gamble, you always need self control to manage your time and money. It is difficult to always manage our self control because we can lose it anytime especially if we lose our money. That can make us lose control and will get deeper in gambling and can stop gambling easily.

But winning on long-term will also difficult because we will not always win every time we gamble. So we must remember that having self control will prevent us from the big lose but we will not have a big chance to win or recover our money. So both will be difficult for gamblers.

[sompitonov]

I feel the same way. Self-control is more difficult. especially if it is related to my emotional and mental condition at that time, I often lose control to control myself, until I don't realize it, ending in regret. And this has happened several times. While basically,. developing our self-control in gambling is to maintain our responsibility. But in fact, it's not that easy.

Self-control itself includes several things that must be considered. And this may sometimes be disturbed when we are in an unstable condition, such as in:

• Self-monitoring, especially in emotional triggers
• Mindfulness and also awareness to be increased
• Emotional management in which it's indeed quite difficult and a dilemma.

but, yes, no matter what, we must be able to make the condition better and not lose the self-control, or our strategies in gambling will be exactly lost.

Gambling is exactly what shows the degree of our self-control and we cannot deceive ourselves in this. We must be honest with ourselves, and if we feel that we are betting more than required, we can continue to play even knowing this. Self-control is really a very difficult event. I still think that professionals have enough self-control, because if not them, then who will have it at all. And as you know, there are very few professionals compared to other players in the gambling industry, this reflects the real small percentage of those who have real self-control.

[Yucky]

Being a long term gambling winner is like mission impossible because you can't figure it on consistent in a long run. You miss one or two games, even if you are in a winning streak or you are in your luck era. This game is playing with luck. Like sport games where it live matches, if circumstances change the outcome of the game, your chances of winning reduce. So I feel like winning long term is harder.

While disciplined is thought too but if you make conscious effort and take active steps towards being disciplined, you are going to be like two times, three times better than your previous self. But winning long term, where you don't have control over it, you're  just playing with luck, It's hard, in fact, it looks impossible. People win jackpots once in a while, people have huge wins once in a while, but winning long term, you don't hear much about it, gambling.

[Altryist]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

Discipline is very important in any business, but it is not always enough, in a business like gambling, knowledge and even luck also play an important role. On the other hand, without self-control, you are likely to fail in gambling, there will always be a temptation to bet more when it seems that this time you are absolutely sure of your team's victory, but in the end everything can end in a big loss. It is important to remember that in gambling there is nothing guaranteed, every bet can be a losing one.

[Free Market Capitalist]

I would say they are related but in terms of playing poker specifically and in my experience it is easier to be a winner, especially at lower levels without 100% mastery of self control. In fact an absolute self control in the face of bad streaks I think does not exist. When you have been a long time that nothing comes out, and you sit at the tables to lose and lose, even against retards who have no fucking idea of how to play, there comes a time that even if you do not believe it, it affects you. The best thing to do in those moments is to plan shorter sessions and dedicate more time to study and review the game.

In any case, self-control is crucial, and with time we have to strengthen it, otherwise we can ruin a bankroll cultivated for months or years in a single session. Fortunately I never busted it but I know of cases.

[Japinat]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

If we can track our gambling bets, we could really see that we are absolutely losing. But this is not the case for why we should control ourselves, because that is the reality here. The reason why is that we prevent overspending.

Gamblers make huge losses as they never set strong guidelines for themselves. Perhaps we can do it if our goal is to just spend 2% of our bankroll per stake as long as we are determined enough to follow. What makes us difficult is because our greed already controls our minds.

[Furious 7]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

In my opinion, these two things have differences, where the more difficult thing is to get long-term profits in gambling. All casinos have the same goal in developing their casinos, which is to profit from the many people who gamble in their casinos, so they will arrange everything as well as possible for them to get more profit compared to their visitors, so it is not surprising that many people lose money or experience more defeats than wins.
With self-control I think this can still be learned even though it is too late, someone who is bad or who has experienced addiction or even major losses including its bad effects, there is a possibility that they will be able to realize to limit their gambling activities, as well as with their addiction, there is a possibility that they will be able to save themselves by setting strict limits. But for long-term victory I don't think there is a sure way to get it.

[danherbias07]

Honestly, self-control is definitely more difficult to achieve than it is to be a long-term winner. If you are a casino gamer, you really don't have any self-control as long as you have the money. A gambler will just keep on depositing his money until he reaches what he wants.
Now, I've seen sports bettors who achieved long-term winning and I think they are still doing it up until now because they are really good at what they are doing. They can implement self-control because they don't bet on any other sport other than what they are winning at. The difference will be greed because somehow there are other gamblers who cannot control themselves and will still gamble even if they don't know the sport they are betting for. Why? Just because they are bored or don't want to be idle.

[Josefjix]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

Consistent gambling leads to addiction which is harder to stop what is already addictive except you put in more effort to stop it by disallowing your inflow of income to gambling account or rather divert it to another thing else. Many gamblers are struggling on this matter many way round. It's harder keeping your budget in a betting account while staking gradually, the best strategy someone could use to avoid this is to deposit a specific amount only when you want to place a bet, if you lose it all then you close it for the day or week depending on the target you give yourself.

Moreover, if you are already a long time gambler, then I think you should be used to loosing and winning as that has become normal to you.