Elon Musk vs Donald Trump

[DanWalker]

We don't know if the two of them really are arguing, let's just remember that Trump is a businessman, and so is Elon Musk, they can talk about the two and they can't.

What we see today is like a drama or a show to convince the community that they have a fight with each other because once the market falls again it is for sure that they will buy Bitcoin again.

We really don't know what's going on behind the scenes, whether they're acting together or if their friendship has truly fallen apart. Because politics is complex and unpredictable, and not everything they want us to know and see is true.

But it would be ridiculous and somewhat exaggerated to suggest that they do so just to manipulate the market and find a way to buy bitcoin at a better price. Do you think they will spend hundreds of billions of dollars buying bitcoin? Because the controversy caused Tesla's stock to drop more than 15%, equivalent to $138 billion in market capitalization, and Elon lost more than $34 billion. I don't think Elon is stupid enough to trade those for a few bitcoins at a less than 10% discount when bitcoin price dropped from $105k to $100k.


https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-net-worth-plunges-trump-feud-social-media-x-2025-6

[Altryist]

Like doing a diversionary tactics for their failures made? somehow that's what I think Trump badly failed on the tariff he implemented for many countries.

Trade court somehow said that his tariff is illegal so maybe Trump find ways to divert an issue so people would forget about this big failure or mess he made.

But let see what's coming around this drama they created again and it seems like these people really want to get the attention of people. I just do hope that civilians will not get affected on their absurdity.

The worst part is that these intrigues affect Bitcoin, which means the entire cryptocurrency market as well. On one hand, it was clear that Trump was using Musk to win the election. He got what he wanted, and now he doesn’t need Musk anymore. Obviously, no one is really interested in cutting budget expenses, while Musk might have believed that his help was genuinely needed in this matter. How will this play out? I think nothing terrible will happen, Musk will simply distance himself from Trump, the national debt will keep growing, and Bitcoin will digest the news and continue to rise too.

[Ishicryptic]

This is politics, there are no true friends and no true enemies, but despite all the effects that the feud between the two has had, I am very confident that it will not have a major impact on the Bitcoin market.

Their friendship was built on common interests and when those interests were no longer there, it was no surprise that they became enemies. That's the nature of the political game, there are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests.

It may not have had a big impact on bitcoin but funny, bitcoin price also corrected because of that news. Not only bitcoin, the US financial market also fell because of the war of words between the two men. I really don't understand what's going on, what does that argument have to do with bitcoin or stocks? Why are they reacting negatively?

Politics is a game of interest, there is no permanent friendship or enmity in it, I have seen politicians that were friends then suddenly began to attack each other and worst enemies who began to dine together, I don't worry myself over such things. If Trump, and Musk's interests aligns again they will become best of friends again. I wonder where their drama will lead to, one is the richest man on earth the other is the most powerful man on earth, money and power the two most controlling factors on earth. My concern is the impact of their misunderstanding on the financial market especially Bitcoin where my own interest lies, although I'm not much bothered because Bitcoin always recovers from bad news.

[kanftka]

Well.. who could have predicted that. The richest man in the world who financed arguably the greatest politician in the world (not a compliment) are now going at each other. It might all seem like political theater but up to now they have both tried to avoid criticizing each other, but today that all seems to have changed. In the last few hours they have been hammering each other on Twitter / Truthsocial and it is making for great entertainment, but it could have large economic repercussions.

It all seemed to start when Musk began saying this "Big Beautiful Bill" as Trump calls it, which increases spending drastically, was a "disgusting abomination", "shame on those who voted for it" and "we [will] fire all the politicians who betrayed the American people" in next year's midterm elections.", which escalated the next day to "KILL the BILL".

This put him at direct odds with Trump who has channeled all his political might into this project and it is his first major attempt at actually utilizing the actual democratic process of passing a bill through Congress and then the Senate where elected representatives from both parties can vote on it. It has squeezed through Congress which lines it up for the Senate next, which may be even harder to arrange now Elon is threatening to counter it with pressure on Senators, who are facing mid term elections at the end of next year. Money talks and if Elon backs opposing candidates like he backed Trump (running a $1 million dollar daily voter lottery in a key state), then he could hand power back to the Democrats.

It's hard to keep track of the latest flurry of messages coming out from them, but it signals a major departure from their alliance:


Some recent (in the last 24 hours) comments from Elon:

Musk said Trump's global tariffs will "cause a recession in the second half of this year".

Oh and some food for thought as they ponder this question: Trump has 3.5 years left as president, but I will be around for 40+ years…

"Such ingratitude" and "Without me, Trump would have lost the election"

Time to drop the really big bomb: Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!

And comments by Trump:

The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!

"Elon and I had a great relationship," Trump said during his Oval Office meeting with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz. "I don't know if we will anymore."

Elon was wearing thin, I asked him to leave, I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY!

Get the popcorn ready, this is going to be a rollercoaster over the next few weeks. The Tesla share price has already taken a 15% hit today and Elon has threatened to decommission Dragon 1 & 2, America's only working space craft for shuttling astronauts. How do you think this is going to play out next?

Honestly, this fallout between Musk and Trump feels like more than just two powerful egos clashing. To me, it looks like a major shift in how tech money and political power interact. They both played nice for years because it worked for them now that real policy and midterms are on the line, it is turning into a high stakes battle. Musk going after the bill really puts Trump’s legislative push in jeopardy, and Trump threatening to pull Musk’s contracts shows how personal it has gotten. Tesla’s stock already took a hit, but I think the bigger issue here is about who gets to shape the narrative and the future. If this keeps escalating, it could seriously change the game for U.S politics and the industries tied to it.

[criptoevangelista]

What a madness, those two (Elon Musk and Donald Trump) look like two kids arguing. I keep thinking: if this kind of trash talk is happening publicly for everyone to see, imagine what goes on behind the scenes. Elon Musk’s black eye was probably related to that, lol. Politicians are mentally ill, this whole thing is a complete madhouse.

[Maslate]

What a madness, those two (Elon Musk and Donald Trump) look like two kids arguing. I keep thinking: if this kind of trash talk is happening publicly for everyone to see, imagine what goes on behind the scenes. Elon Musk’s black eye was probably related to that, lol. Politicians are mentally ill, this whole thing is a complete madhouse.

According to @DanWalker’s post, it already cost him a lot of money after his stocks took a hit. If he keeps this up, he might lose his spot as the richest man in the world in the next update.

I guess one thing’s clear, if you’re a businessman, you don’t want to mess with Trump. He can get you into legal trouble or damage your reputation. And remember, Trump isn’t just the president but he’s also a billionaire. That’s why I really don’t understand why Elon chose to pick a fight he probably can’t win.

[Spaceman1000$]

Issue concerning Passing of this bill might be for public glare but trust me Trump and Musk have had their disagreement undertone, what we are seeing now is manifestation of what has been happening in close doors. Musk should back down already, he has lost about $34 billion of his fortune as at yesterday alone, how sure is he that during the midterm elections, those senators he will be rooting for and ready to spend over a billion dollars for will win, he shouldn't forget the president is enjoying incumbent powers and for a man like Donald Trump, he might also be ready to play dirty with you too, having executive powers is definitely different from having money.

[Felicity_Tide]

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Get the popcorn ready, this is going to be a rollercoaster over the next few weeks. The Tesla share price has already taken a 15% hit today and Elon has threatened to decommission Dragon 1 & 2, America's only working space craft for shuttling astronauts. How do you think this is going to play out next?

This is indeed going to be very interesting, but the most important thing is, it is certainly going to be more interesting if it doesn't affect the world economy, and especially the Bitcoin community.

Just imagine Trump saying that "musk already knows all these before now", which proves that his administration isn't joking with a single penny, even though it's a bit aggressive. This is now a fight between two very powerful men, and I don't see anyone of them backing down. And what makes this even far more interesting is the Senate election that is coming up next year. I just want to be believe that they would sort this out sooner, before it gets out of hand.

[SATWAT]

What a madness, those two (Elon Musk and Donald Trump) look like two kids arguing. I keep thinking: if this kind of trash talk is happening publicly for everyone to see, imagine what goes on behind the scenes. Elon Musk’s black eye was probably related to that, lol. Politicians are mentally ill, this whole thing is a complete madhouse.

According to @DanWalker’s post, it already cost him a lot of money after his stocks took a hit. If he keeps this up, he might lose his spot as the richest man in the world in the next update.

I guess one thing’s clear, if you’re a businessman, you don’t want to mess with Trump. He can get you into legal trouble or damage your reputation. And remember, Trump isn’t just the president but he’s also a billionaire. That’s why I really don’t understand why Elon chose to pick a fight he probably can’t win.

Most chance's situation could be ok in coming days because Elon Musk can't afford this feud this could be gone worst for both just because of this someone will come in front and talked to them about consequences of this, so all will be set but in case it's not happened then surely It's going to hurt Elon Musk more badly.
Its never been good idea any businessman had feud with political setup because this always hurt him badly while in start he was doing work now suddenly they are having problems both are mature and understand about many things which are not ideal so they needed to be sat and talk about this problem because this will give them time for better mutual understanding and have better results of ending things which are creating problem between them.

[Danica22]

According to @DanWalker’s post, it already cost him a lot of money after his stocks took a hit. If he keeps this up, he might lose his spot as the richest man in the world in the next update.

I guess one thing’s clear, if you’re a businessman, you don’t want to mess with Trump. He can get you into legal trouble or damage your reputation. And remember, Trump isn’t just the president but he’s also a billionaire. That’s why I really don’t understand why Elon chose to pick a fight he probably can’t win.

Human rights in the United States are very high, Trump can impact Elon in the short term but it is not easy to destroy or damage his reputation. As long as Elon speaks out for the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party will protect him at all costs. Neither side could ignore such a close ally, the richest man in the world and one of the most influential.
Not to mention, hindering Elon's career will also seriously affect the development of the United States when the companies and fields that Elon is developing all play an important role in the economy as well as the technological development of the country. Even if Trump wanted to do it, the Republicans and his allies would not let it happen, the national interest must come first, not personal grudges.

Trump is also a billionaire but compared to his assets, Trump is nothing compared to Elon.

[avikz]

I am enjoying the show! It's amazing to see what happens when people with mental disorder becomes a president. But I really admire the "freedom of speech" scene in US. In other countries, Elon would have been prosecuted by now. It's only possible in US.

But at the end of the day, Elon is a businessman. So his actions will impact the reputation of Tesla. Probably temporary impact, but it will impact. I am sure a lot more drama coming! Waiting for that!

[Oluwa-btc]

It's a relationship built on propaganda and personal interest. It was never going to last long. Sooner or later, they would disagree, and it would get messy. That's exactly what is happening.
Now Elon is retweeting and replying to tweets that have dirt on Trump and how he was at an Espien party and all. Messy.

Think about it, Trump can't burn the bridge with his biggest funder. Aside of just money at monumental amounts, Elon also lended trump his popularity which is priceless. Truth be told Elon has become quite popular the latest years especially with the right wing crowd so he quite surely won trump the election. 

Trump has no more use for Elon Musk. This is his second term, and he will not be contesting for elections again, so he doesn't need any campaign funds or popularity from him. So I don't see any reason why their relationship can't get sour. Except that Trump is impeached, he will be president for the remainder of his term, and he doesn't need Trump's money that much, maybe his influence, but not his money.

On no account seriously,I don't think I enjoy this online back and forth between Elon musk and Donald Trump.The relationship is obviously strategically calculated before it began.If you check very well both legends are leveraging online platforms that influences and balances regulatory affairs with the public.
On a personal scale of observation,it feels unsafe for these men to fallout because it might threaten the major contracts from Tesla and otherwise.

[GiftedMAN]

I am enjoying the show! It's amazing to see what happens when people with mental disorder becomes a president. But I really admire the "freedom of speech" scene in US. In other countries, Elon would have been prosecuted by now. It's only possible in US.

The whole thing is becoming serious like how can two adults act cool today and the next minute they are having some funny stories all over the internet that tells you that one person is either having some health issues or both of them.

"Freedom of speech" is really been practiced over there because if it was to be in my country Nigeria by now Elon would have been on the run knowing that people will be coming after him.

[Smartprofit]

Today I started to doubt that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are really smart people. Each of them has their own business, their own financial empire and their own ego.

Couldn't they have met and agreed on everything like old good friends? Couldn't Donald Trump have fired Elon Musk in a way that wouldn't hurt his ego? Was it really that important for Donald Trump to hit Elon Musk's business? Couldn't he have avoided it? Wouldn't it have been better for everyone if Elon Musk, having left politics, continued to develop his business empire?

Why did Elon Musk publicly criticize Donald Trump? Why did he threaten him with impeachment and the publication of information about Donald Trump's connection with Epstein's orgies?

Why did these two people become mortal enemies of each other? Don't they have enough other mortal enemies?

[Die_empty]

It's funny how these two people were still friend just days ago, or they had all these in mind before now? Lol. Fact here is, all these drama is just going to put up another shit show in the financial market as both trump and Elon musk are very influential persons.

We don't know if the two of them really are arguing, let's just remember that Trump is a businessman, and so is Elon Musk, they can talk about the two and they can't.

What we see today is like a drama or a show to convince the community that they have a fight with each other because once the market falls again it is for sure that they will buy Bitcoin again.

The fight is real because we are hearing each party accusing themselves of serious misbehaviour. My observations are that both of them are proud and have ego problems.  Elon Musk wants to control the president because of his financial and other investments in the elections. But Trump is surrounded by people who dislike Elon and helped the president to push him out.

Both of them might reconcile but there will no longer be a cordial relationship. Musk thought he would make more money from his investment, but Trump is the master of the game. He has mastered the art of using people to achieve his aim and dumping them if they become useless. Trump will never contest elections so he doesn't need Elon anymore.

[YOSHIE]

How do you think this is going to play out next?

Nothing happens both of them the same.
Donald Trump: Crazy with tariffs and want to control the world economy.
Elon Musk: Crazy with technology wants to compete in the global economy and want his company to enter all countries.

That's how the rich work, you do not need to be surprised Elon Musk is the biggest donation in the election of Trump and spends billions of dollars to Winning Trump, if at this time you see them replying to comments each other, it is in ordinary politics that the Mafia Tie trick is tie.

The goal is attacking each other, as if Donald Trump's policy was not received by Elon Musk and vice versa, you did not see them in one room they were both in the White House laughing while drinking Wine, we both can shake the world, Trump you are great, Elon you are great, continue like this we will see what other countries can do to the economy, we are strong.

[Mrbluntzy]

Seeing an article this morning which mentioned Musk's tweet of yesterday, "Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the White House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate. Such ingratitude." I felt disappointed not because I didn't picture that this was going to happen because because I felt that Musk is smarter than this, first he should have known better from the beginning that politicians doesn't usually keep to agreement especially when it doesn't fall too much in their favours and of the cabinet members and maybe to the public. He is and entrepreneur and Trump is a politician so he should have known how to involve himself from the start, at least not to be too involved with every of his substance knowing that the politician can change his mind anytime. Since Trump already said that they both will not be friends again for now, odds would be against him (Musk) and he might not be able to do anything.

[Muba20]

Just a few days ago, where they were full of praise for each other, they have changed a lot in just a few days. In the meantime, both of them are talking aggressively to each other, which is definitely not good. If this conflict between them does not stop at this moment, then a major disaster can definitely arise. Although nothing will happen immediately, its impact will continue to be felt.

The position of Trump and Musk has reached a point where Trump is unable to take Musk close and cannot hold him on the other side. Especially when Musk is unable to support Trump's trade advisor Peter Navarro in any way, Trump could not remain silent on the issue. The main point of the incident is from here. Now the main point is that just as some of Elon Musk's principles have not gained acceptance by the public, similarly some of Trump's principles are not acceptable, but when Trump tried to forcefully implement those actions, this opposition between the two started.

[sokani]

Get the popcorn ready, this is going to be a rollercoaster over the next few weeks. The Tesla share price has already taken a 15% hit today and Elon has threatened to decommission Dragon 1 & 2, America's only working space craft for shuttling astronauts. How do you think this is going to play out next?

I hope the fallout is just the trading of words and everything will cool off in the nick of time because if Elon Musk goes ahead with the decommissioning of Dragon 1 & 2, it will have significant implications for the American economy. Many persons are going to lose their jobs, NASA's ISS operations will be disrupted, and scientific research and space tourism will also be affected. Any drastic decision like this will have severe consequences.

[BIT-BENDER]

It's funny how these two people were still friend just days ago, or they had all these in mind before now? Lol. Fact here is, all these drama is just going to put up another shit show in the financial market as both trump and Elon musk are very influential persons.

There is no permanent friends in politics, I have learnt this from my countries politics, today you can see two politicians having a go at each other the next they dey are break bread together.
It is not all that unbelievable that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are having issues both men are very strict in what they believe and not even bond of friendship can change that. Regardless they could easily settle anytime. We should be more concerned how fast their issues is shaping the movement of crypto-currency market.