Elon Musk vs Donald Trump

[DanWalker]

By looking at this we realize that in the end some of these big people like politicians are mostly two-faced and just take advantage of each other when there is no match going on then they will bring each other down and that is what is happening for Elon and Trump right now.

They looked very close before even supporting each other but a few days later they felt the tension which ended up like mortal enemies for now.
This shows that in the end, interest is always one of the things that must be considered because they realize that in the end they know no one is really sincere to support each other when 2 people who have control in the country system as well as a large number of followers that make when one is careless then they will be stabbed. It's also a little scary for the lives of people who have power because not only enemies who directly attack but there are those who are in the guise of friends but are ready to destroy.

There are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests. I think this is not only true for politics but also for us, the common people. We always pride ourselves on being good people and wouldn't betray our friends or loved ones for money or power...but that's because we've never seen a large enough amount of money or a big enough benefit. If we have a billion dollar deal, we become millionaires and fully powerful. It would be difficult to know what decision we would make at that point.
Because human nature is greedy, selfish and jealous.

Politicians and we are all the same, we are all human.

[qurbanshah02]

They're saying Trump wants to deport Musk. Adults shouldn't act like kids when ppl watch them fighting on social media. If Musk funds a new party it's going to change American politics because voters will have more options.

The rules of proper behavior are always defined by money, power, or circumstances — that’s not my personal take, that’s just what history shows us.
As for the facts, Trump lost. He planted a time bomb under the Republican Party. Even if he tries to push Elon Musk out now, he won’t be able to stop a new party from forming — and that party could easily bring Musk back later

Such behavior is seen only by people for whom everything is their money and we are talking about such people. History is made because of those people who chose money by ending every relationship, which is a very wrong path. I believe that there is no life without money, but good morals are also a very valuable thing that connects us with people.

There will be a big reason behind this too. We know that Trump is not one of the losers. We know about this but Trump will play such a trick that Elon will either throw this party away or join Trump. That is why Elon has played this trick to keep him safe from everywhere.

[arabspaceship123]

Musk isn't happy with Trump's big beautiful bill so he's going to make a new politic party. He's the world's richest man he's going to fund the new party with unlimited cash & ads to promote who he wants to be president. It won't affect Trump because he'll be president for 1 term but the new party's going to take vote away from republicans & democrats in 2028.

[Alpen]

We know about this but Trump will play such a trick that Elon will either throw this party away or join Trump. That is why Elon has played this trick to keep him safe from everywhere.

Ever heard Trump’s nickname? Traders call him TACO. Basically, the ‘pseudo personality’ type — promises one thing, delivers the exact opposite.

His ‘peace deals’? Non-stop wars. His ‘booming economy’? Hello inflation.

And crypto? He’s knee-deep in shady bribes, family biz links, and his own memecoins. No surprise his big ‘crypto week’ launch tanked from day one.

[Majestic-milf]

Musk isn't happy with Trump's big beautiful bill so he's going to make a new politic party. He's the world's richest man he's going to fund the new party with unlimited cash & ads to promote who he wants to be president. It won't affect Trump because he'll be president for 1 term but the new party's going to take vote away from republicans & democrats in 2028.

I'd still maintain this; never trust a businessman. For all we know Musk may be agitating for a new party because there's something he wants to achieve and entirely because he's trying to kick against the Bill initiated by Trump. These two may be at loggerheads now and in public but do we know what goes on underground?
 Trump has come out to describe Musk's intentions of forming a new party as "ridiculous" and even calling Elon Musk a train wreck. That description git home though because there are some actions taken by Musk that looks like something done out of impulse and as a result of a carefully drawn out plan but then again Trump could be so annoyed about this simply because he feels that should this plan of Musk gets carried out, it will cause some tension amongst those who support him. I means what more worse than having your main ally turning against you, right?

[Cryptmuster]

Musk isn't happy with Trump's big beautiful bill so he's going to make a new politic party. He's the world's richest man he's going to fund the new party with unlimited cash & ads to promote who he wants to be president. It won't affect Trump because he'll be president for 1 term but the new party's going to take vote away from republicans & democrats in 2028.

I believe that the fact Musk was seen alongside Trump is already a clear sign that he's interested in politics. Based on that, it's reasonable to assume that he has quite big ambitions and might one day run for president himself. Especially considering that while they were working together, everything seemed to go into the same basket, so to speak. Now that there’s a conflict between them, it’s logical to assume they’ll part ways, and Musk will move forward independently. Yes, he has huge ambitions, and strong financial capabilities which are crucial, so I think Musk will become increasingly involved in politics.

[abaeze]

When businessmen enter politics, politicians get a bad name, and when politicians enter business, the country's economy gets bad, so whoever does what he is supposed to do, otherwise it will be counterproductive. Today, the situation in the whole world is like this - whoever has money wants to control politics, economy, diplomacy, social reforms, media, everything. And the problem lies here, if Trump were in his place and Elon Musk were within his limits, then the two would have had separate places, there would have been no problem. Their opposition started with Musk's strong criticism of the "One Big Beautiful Bill", which we all know, but none of us know where it will end.

[arabspaceship123]

Musk's posting about Trump again. He's angry because he's funded Trump's presidential campaign. They were close now they're enemies because Trump's made policies which affect Musk's companies in negative ways.

[Cookdata]

Musk isn't happy with Trump's big beautiful bill so he's going to make a new politic party. He's the world's richest man he's going to fund the new party with unlimited cash & ads to promote who he wants to be president. It won't affect Trump because he'll be president for 1 term but the new party's going to take vote away from republicans & democrats in 2028.

It seems that many of us want to believe what Trump and Elon want us to believe, there is nothing going between this people. It's obvious that Elon wasn't having to take care of his business, he is the executive chief of Tesla, you don't expect him to be managing the affairs of the politics and also managing what's going on in his company, it's not going to be easy to manage and beside it's going to make people lose confidence in his leadership, not everyone in the company might be in the party he support.

During his few months in politics, Tesla was even suffering and bleeding, there wasn't confidence in buying despite his friend policy to make some countries how to his kneels. Some days, he made a tweets for supporting Bitcoin and feel Bitcoin will change all the things he believes and that's when I know that yea the man is back to make more money from his gullible followers that don't know what to do with their own life but takes everything Elon say to their heart.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Musk isn't happy with Trump's big beautiful bill so he's going to make a new politic party. He's the world's richest man he's going to fund the new party with unlimited cash & ads to promote who he wants to be president. It won't affect Trump because he'll be president for 1 term but the new party's going to take vote away from republicans & democrats in 2028.

I believe that the fact Musk was seen alongside Trump is already a clear sign that he's interested in politics. Based on that, it's reasonable to assume that he has quite big ambitions and might one day run for president himself. Especially considering that while they were working together, everything seemed to go into the same basket, so to speak. Now that there’s a conflict between them, it’s logical to assume they’ll part ways, and Musk will move forward independently. Yes, he has huge ambitions, and strong financial capabilities which are crucial, so I think Musk will become increasingly involved in politics.

X (Twitter) is considered the social network favored by politicians around the world, not just in the US. Since Musk decided to buy it, I have believed that he intended to get involved in politics rather than use it to serve his business. And his strong support for Trump in the recent election further demonstrates that he supports Trump primarily for his future political career. But unfortunately, things did not turn out as he expected.


However, Musk was not born in the United States, he is only a legal immigrant citizen so he cannot run for president. But he could take on other positions in the US government if he can advance further in politics.

At the moment, his American Party is still just a rumor and may or may not be formed, but I believe he will not give up his political influence. When the new election comes around, he will soon find other allies.

[Antotena]

There are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests. I think this is not only true for politics but also for us, the common people. We always pride ourselves on being good people and wouldn't betray our friends or loved ones for money or power...but that's because we've never seen a large enough amount of money or a big enough benefit. If we have a billion dollar deal, we become millionaires and fully powerful. It would be difficult to know what decision we would make at that point.
Because human nature is greedy, selfish and jealous.

Politicians and we are all the same, we are all human.

I was really surprised how everything escalated so quickly between the two, they were tight friends but my inner mind told me that one thing or another will happen but I wasn't really ready for this quick one not even up to a year. One thing I have realized about politics is that you have to be ready to compromise without any emotions and it's obvious that Elon isn't the type that is ready for such and perhaps he is seeing that the administration is not doing as his vision from the beginning.

Another thing I'm curious that might has happen could be the cabals. What we see outside isn't what is really happening behind. The presidency is a group of people that has common goals together, they decide what happens and what they don't like, if they see that Elon Musk has become a tool of attention or doing what they don't like, they can call the attention of Trump to get rid of him as soon as possible and he don't dare say no to such people because they are the reasons behind his success to the presidency and not the things we see talk about on the outside.

[mvdheuvel1983]

Musk's posting about Trump again. He's angry because he's funded Trump's presidential campaign. They were close now they're enemies because Trump's made policies which affect Musk's companies in negative ways.

Elon musk should understand that Donald Trump is a politician who can do anything or become friends with anyone just to get what he wants and that's what he did he made him his friend to help him get access to the white house again but now that he is the president Elon musk should not expect him to implement policies that will be 100% favourable to him that can't be possible because I don't think they had any legal agreements before sponsoring his presidential campaign. They have issues but they will later settle and become friends again they just need to stop calling out themselves because they will keep exposing their secrets.

[EarnOnVictor]

How do you think this is going to play out next?

Could you believe that till now, I still believe the two are just playing politics on the people, the fight is not real.

If you noticed, from the beginning of Trump's presidency, Musk's business has been severely affected. I guess what we are seeing now is a bid to strengthen it back, by changing the narrative. This could get messy for sure, to get him back on track locally and globally.

Even the American Party created by Elon Musk is another charade, he himself knows that it is futile, even before it started.

[Marvell1]

How do you think this is going to play out next?

Could you believe that till now, I still believe the two are just playing politics on the people, the fight is not real.

If you noticed, from the beginning of Trump's presidency, Musk's business has been severely affected. I guess what we are seeing now is a bid to strengthen it back, by changing the narrative. This could get messy for sure, to get him back on track locally and globally.

Even the American Party created by Elon Musk is another charade, he himself knows that it is futile, even before it started.

The main cause of their quarrel is Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill".  Because part of the bill would negatively impact Musk's electric car business, Tesla, which is his mainstay. The bill proposes to cut the tax credit for electric vehicles, a policy enacted under President Biden. Once this bill is passed, the production cost as well as the price of Tesla cars will increase significantly. That would make his business more difficult. So I don't think they're playing politics and Musk isn't doing it for the US economy, but for his business.

[sokani]

I read something, I just don't know if there's any truth to what I read, where Elon Musk is going to enter politics, I just don't really know how true it is. We know Elon Musk as a billionaire businessman all over the world who is also known to be the reason why the price value rose and why Dogecoin, Shib, became popular.

Now if it's true that he's going to enter politics, for sure he knows what he's doing because he's a smart person, a businessman, and whatever his advocacies are and we can see that they're good, I don't see any reason not to support him in what he has in his plans for politics.

You got it wrong. Creating a political party is one thing, and running for office is another. What Elon Musk said is he's going to create an American party, he didn't say anything about getting into politics. Maybe, with his wealth and connections, he can create and sponsor the party, and that's all he can do. According to the US constitution, only a natural-born US citizen can run for the presidency. Hence, he's automatically disqualified because he was born in South Africa.

[EarnOnVictor]

How do you think this is going to play out next?

Could you believe that till now, I still believe the two are just playing politics on the people, the fight is not real.

If you noticed, from the beginning of Trump's presidency, Musk's business has been severely affected. I guess what we are seeing now is a bid to strengthen it back, by changing the narrative. This could get messy for sure, to get him back on track locally and globally.

Even the American Party created by Elon Musk is another charade, he himself knows that it is futile, even before it started.

The main cause of their quarrel is Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill".  Because part of the bill would negatively impact Musk's electric car business, Tesla, which is his mainstay. The bill proposes to cut the tax credit for electric vehicles, a policy enacted under President Biden. Once this bill is passed, the production cost as well as the price of Tesla cars will increase significantly. That would make his business more difficult. So I don't think they're playing politics and Musk isn't doing it for the US economy, but for his business.

You have a very lovely point, I know that too, but deep inside me, I am convinced that it's all about politics and the restoration of the way people viewed Elon Musk before he started the bromance with Trump and politicians.

As for the electric cars, it is not isolated to Musk's business, but to all of them. While the high tariffs imposed on imported electric vehicles will also cushion the effect, the "Big Beautiful Bill" can have on electric cars in the US.

Above all, it's still a bill whose effect would be passed on the consumers eventually, and not on manufacturers. That's how it works.

[arabspaceship123]

Every body knows they're enemies ppl didn't expect they'd fight on social media. Musk's donations helped Trump become president it's why he would've expected policies to help his empire. Trump didn't help after winning so Musk isn't happy. He's funding a new party to challenge 2 big parties in America.

Musk's posting about Trump again. He's angry because he's funded Trump's presidential campaign. They were close now they're enemies because Trump's made policies which affect Musk's companies in negative ways.

Elon musk should understand that Donald Trump is a politician who can do anything or become friends with anyone just to get what he wants and that's what he did he made him his friend to help him get access to the white house again but now that he is the president Elon musk should not expect him to implement policies that will be 100% favourable to him that can't be possible because I don't think they had any legal agreements before sponsoring his presidential campaign. They have issues but they will later settle and become friends again they just need to stop calling out themselves because they will keep exposing their secrets.

[CryptoBuds]

You have a very lovely point, I know that too, but deep inside me, I am convinced that it's all about politics and the restoration of the way people viewed Elon Musk before he started the bromance with Trump and politicians.

I don't rule out that possibility either, it’s all just a play meant to reaffirm Trump’s true role, as there has been too much talk that Musk was the real president, not Trump. When Musk was given too much power in the White House, he did whatever he wanted without caring about anyone and overshadowed the role of President Trump.
Second goal is to be able to completely separate Elon from politics, which would be good for his career if Democrats take over the White House in the next term. If Elon maintains a close relationship with Trump, it will be detrimental to his business.

I think this is just an agreement between them and they are just putting on a show for us to see.

[arabspaceship123]

Musk's been inside govt meetings it's where powerful ppl make decisions which affect billions of ppl. He knows he won't be invited back to the white house while Trump's president but he wants to get involved in politics. Musk knows he's got unlimited money to fund a new America party so he's going to try changing how American's vote.

[Iranus]

Musk's been inside govt meetings it's where powerful ppl make decisions which affect billions of ppl. He knows he won't be invited back to the white house while Trump's president but he wants to get involved in politics. Musk knows he's got unlimited money to fund a new America party so he's going to try changing how American's vote.

Although he announced the formation of the "American Party" on July 5 after Trump's OBBB was passed by Congress. But so far, there has been no official news or official confirmation from Elon that the "American Party" has been born. In other words, this is still just Elon's idea, it has not been officially implemented or legally registered.

Forming a new party will not be easy, and money alone is not enough, and I believe Elon understands that better than anyone. So, I don't think we're going to have a new party. And if Elon wants to get involved in politics, he has plenty of ways to do it.