tyz
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March 09, 2016, 05:54:23 PM |
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I have accidently seen that Poloniex' NEM account has harvested 7-8% of all NEM blocks yet. Couldn't it lead to problems and security issues when a single account are getting this might in the network, could it?  
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kahir
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March 09, 2016, 05:57:06 PM |
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pump over ?
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Il Tomato
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March 09, 2016, 06:11:31 PM |
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pump over ?
ask this in two days again and you know the answere 
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Nxtblg
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March 09, 2016, 06:15:43 PM |
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pump over ?
As of now, it looks like both the pump and the dump are over. Ever since that " flash crash," XEM's bottomed & is crawling back up. aon, 325 satoshis.
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HinnomTX
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March 09, 2016, 08:18:22 PM |
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You can declare anything whatever you want, It'll still be your fault. Sorry.
patmast3r, If it's my fault, why are you apologizing to me? I'm going to give you an opportunity, in the public eye, to reverse this unethical policy of defrauding investors, and make this exchange of NEMstake for NEM. I will send my 3.5 NEMstake to whatever NXT address you specify to prove that I control them. In return, you will deposit approximately 7874999 XEM to the following address: NAH5IVPG5BI253O3ZRJMSZXHBXUGHVENP7PATMFH It will take me about 1/2 a day to access and move the NEMstake. HinnomTX
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"One can only solve so much with cryptography. The rest of the solution will prove to be economic in nature." -Evan Duffield Dash is Digital Cash. https://www.dash.org
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patmast3r
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March 09, 2016, 08:28:12 PM |
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You can declare anything whatever you want, It'll still be your fault. Sorry.
patmast3r, If it's my fault, why are you apologizing to me? I'm going to give you an opportunity, in the public eye, to reverse this unethical policy of defrauding investors, and make this exchange of NEMstake for NEM. I will send my 3.5 NEMstake to whatever NXT address you specify to prove that I control them. In return, you will deposit approximately 7874999 XEM to the following address: NAH5IVPG5BI253O3ZRJMSZXHBXUGHVENP7PATMFH It will take me about 1/2 a day to access and move the NEMstake. HinnomTX Even if I wanted to I couldn't. I'm not in controll (in fact no single person is) so you're gonna have to convince a bunch of other people and I'll be honest...i don't think it's gonna happen.
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LemonAndFriesOne
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March 09, 2016, 08:30:21 PM |
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You can declare anything whatever you want, It'll still be your fault. Sorry.
patmast3r, If it's my fault, why are you apologizing to me? I'm going to give you an opportunity, in the public eye, to reverse this unethical policy of defrauding investors, and make this exchange of NEMstake for NEM. I will send my 3.5 NEMstake to whatever NXT address you specify to prove that I control them. In return, you will deposit approximately 7874999 XEM to the following address: NAH5IVPG5BI253O3ZRJMSZXHBXUGHVENP7PATMFH It will take me about 1/2 a day to access and move the NEMstake. HinnomTX Your status of Senior member says that you should have kept up at least once a month. I had my issues with UtopianFuture at one point, but we came to an agreement. They extended the deadline many times to make sure no one was left out. If you didn't keep up, then it's no one else's fault. Maybe devs will reconsider but it would be unfair to everyone else that stayed up to date and this would open a whole new mess which NEM does not need right now.
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Thingamajig
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March 09, 2016, 08:41:28 PM |
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You can declare anything whatever you want, It'll still be your fault. Sorry.
patmast3r, If it's my fault, why are you apologizing to me? I'm going to give you an opportunity, in the public eye, to reverse this unethical policy of defrauding investors, and make this exchange of NEMstake for NEM. I will send my 3.5 NEMstake to whatever NXT address you specify to prove that I control them. In return, you will deposit approximately 7874999 XEM to the following address: NAH5IVPG5BI253O3ZRJMSZXHBXUGHVENP7PATMFH It will take me about 1/2 a day to access and move the NEMstake. HinnomTX The amount of times the deadline was discussed, debated, pushed back etc made it very easy to at least be aware OF a deadline in the first place. There simply is no excuse but frankly it was obvious to all that as soon NEM started seeing some semblance of value, people like yourself would come out of the woodwork. I don't doubt that you have full control over your nemstakes, as probably nobody does here. What i do think though is it's your own fault for not at least checking on your investment.
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gentlemand
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March 09, 2016, 08:44:05 PM |
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I think it was a relatively mucky and confusing system but everything was telegraphed for a lengthy time. Imagine what the headlines will be from the forgettees in a year or so if it really starts to gain traction.
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HinnomTX
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March 09, 2016, 08:52:41 PM |
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You can declare anything whatever you want, It'll still be your fault. Sorry.
patmast3r, If it's my fault, why are you apologizing to me? I'm going to give you an opportunity, in the public eye, to reverse this unethical policy of defrauding investors, and make this exchange of NEMstake for NEM. I will send my 3.5 NEMstake to whatever NXT address you specify to prove that I control them. In return, you will deposit approximately 7874999 XEM to the following address: NAH5IVPG5BI253O3ZRJMSZXHBXUGHVENP7PATMFH It will take me about 1/2 a day to access and move the NEMstake. HinnomTX Your status of Senior member says that you should have kept up at least once a month. I had my issues with UtopianFuture at one point, but we came to an agreement. They extended the deadline many times to make sure no one was left out. If you didn't keep up, then it's no one else's fault. Maybe devs will reconsider but it would be unfair to everyone else that stayed up to date and this would open a whole new mess which NEM does not need right now. That's exactly what I'm trying to do here- to reach an agreement. Everyone has already conveniently forgotten my situation. I actually lost the paper where I had written down my NXT passphrase! I couldn't do anything with NXT or NXT assets until a month ago. NEMstake holders were among this community's earliest investors. They should be the most respected in the NEM community. Surely you must recognize that the 'deadline' is just there so that funds can be expropriated from those who have rightful claims to them to create a developer slush fund. That's fraud.
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"One can only solve so much with cryptography. The rest of the solution will prove to be economic in nature." -Evan Duffield Dash is Digital Cash. https://www.dash.org
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HinnomTX
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March 09, 2016, 08:57:36 PM |
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Imagine what the headlines will be from the forgettees in a year or so if it really starts to gain traction.
This happened in Bitcoin largely because people deleted wallets, threw away hard drives, etc. They didn't have their digital asset expropriated from them.
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"One can only solve so much with cryptography. The rest of the solution will prove to be economic in nature." -Evan Duffield Dash is Digital Cash. https://www.dash.org
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HinnomTX
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March 09, 2016, 09:01:48 PM |
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The amount of times the deadline was discussed, debated, pushed back etc made it very easy to at least be aware OF a deadline in the first place. There simply is no excuse but frankly it was obvious to all that as soon NEM started seeing some semblance of value, people like yourself would come out of the woodwork.
I don't doubt that you have full control over your nemstakes, as probably nobody does here. What i do think though is it's your own fault for not at least checking on your investment.
You have no clue. Read my posts. I could check on my NEMstake parked on the NXT blockchain all day long. Couldn't move 'em. No passphrase.
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"One can only solve so much with cryptography. The rest of the solution will prove to be economic in nature." -Evan Duffield Dash is Digital Cash. https://www.dash.org
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fob123
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March 09, 2016, 09:54:55 PM |
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The amount of times the deadline was discussed, debated, pushed back etc made it very easy to at least be aware OF a deadline in the first place. There simply is no excuse but frankly it was obvious to all that as soon NEM started seeing some semblance of value, people like yourself would come out of the woodwork.
I don't doubt that you have full control over your nemstakes, as probably nobody does here. What i do think though is it's your own fault for not at least checking on your investment.
You have no clue. Read my posts. I could check on my NEMstake parked on the NXT blockchain all day long. Couldn't move 'em. No passphrase. Why don't you do everyone a favor and move on. No one is interested to hear your problems anymore. You asked the questions and got your answer. Your post is just a time waster.
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LemonAndFriesOne
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March 09, 2016, 10:04:29 PM |
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This is my opinion:
Maybe this is a good time to test the voting power of the NEM community and make a decision as a collective to give these people who forgot their last chance.
The option would be for a percentage of their original stake (if the funds are available), the other percentage going back to the NEM fund as a penalty for not redeeming within the allotted time range.
Maybe something along the lines of 50% given of their original stake.
It's just an idea, the community needs to decide if they are willing to do it.
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McDoxy1
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March 09, 2016, 10:51:41 PM |
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I would be saying the same thing if I realized that I would be sitting on worthless assets which could have been worth over $10k but are now completely worthless because I was dumb enough to loose the key to my account (if that's even true) or dumb enough to not redeem them in time.
Instructions were clear when you first bought NEMstakes and if you are so careless with your keys or not keep up with your investments, it's your own fault and I have no sympathy.
Plus there's nothing anybody can do, even if they wanted to.
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rajc
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March 09, 2016, 11:37:32 PM |
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The amount of times the deadline was discussed, debated, pushed back etc made it very easy to at least be aware OF a deadline in the first place. There simply is no excuse but frankly it was obvious to all that as soon NEM started seeing some semblance of value, people like yourself would come out of the woodwork.
I don't doubt that you have full control over your nemstakes, as probably nobody does here. What i do think though is it's your own fault for not at least checking on your investment.
You have no clue. Read my posts. I could check on my NEMstake parked on the NXT blockchain all day long. Couldn't move 'em. No passphrase. at the end of the https://forum.nem.io/t/nemstake-redemption-deadline/1118/83 there is link to some non existing official announcement on this matter. Does anybody know what that was?
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greentea
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March 09, 2016, 11:44:55 PM |
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The amount of times the deadline was discussed, debated, pushed back etc made it very easy to at least be aware OF a deadline in the first place. There simply is no excuse but frankly it was obvious to all that as soon NEM started seeing some semblance of value, people like yourself would come out of the woodwork.
I don't doubt that you have full control over your nemstakes, as probably nobody does here. What i do think though is it's your own fault for not at least checking on your investment.
You have no clue. Read my posts. I could check on my NEMstake parked on the NXT blockchain all day long. Couldn't move 'em. No passphrase. at the end of the https://forum.nem.io/t/nemstake-redemption-deadline/1118/83 there is link to some non existing official announcement on this matter. Does anybody know what that was? I believe this is the equivalent: https://forum.nem.io/t/nxt-ae-update-and-official-announcement/1123/6
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March 10, 2016, 12:26:50 AM |
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The amount of times the deadline was discussed, debated, pushed back etc made it very easy to at least be aware OF a deadline in the first place. There simply is no excuse but frankly it was obvious to all that as soon NEM started seeing some semblance of value, people like yourself would come out of the woodwork.
I don't doubt that you have full control over your nemstakes, as probably nobody does here. What i do think though is it's your own fault for not at least checking on your investment.
You have no clue. Read my posts. I could check on my NEMstake parked on the NXT blockchain all day long. Couldn't move 'em. No passphrase. Is there any way he "could" be scamming. Meaning, do we have to trust him. Or is there no question that he is telling the truth. If there is no trust involved, and we know for sure that there is no possible way he could be lying, then I think it should go to a community vote. Pat is also right. He can't give you the NEM even if he wanted. Its in a multisig acct, and the devs have to agree to a vote, then you must get a majority, then, and only then could Pat have the other signers release any XEM.
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March 10, 2016, 12:52:29 AM |
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This is my opinion:
Maybe this is a good time to test the voting power of the NEM community and make a decision as a collective to give these people who forgot their last chance.
The option would be for a percentage of their original stake (if the funds are available), the other percentage going back to the NEM fund as a penalty for not redeeming within the allotted time range.
Maybe something along the lines of 50% given of their original stake.
It's just an idea, the community needs to decide if they are willing to do it.
Surely we don't want to go back that route again. This was long discussed and at the end people that missed the original deadline were given 3 extra months after launch to claim. If he missed both deadlines is only a fault of his own, although he will obviously blame others.
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NEM : TAFTFJ-JJ4XTW-FNYZU7-HZR2Y2-RXIKEW-QIOWFJ-WM4N
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March 10, 2016, 04:22:06 AM |
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This is my opinion:
Maybe this is a good time to test the voting power of the NEM community and make a decision as a collective to give these people who forgot their last chance.
The option would be for a percentage of their original stake (if the funds are available), the other percentage going back to the NEM fund as a penalty for not redeeming within the allotted time range.
Maybe something along the lines of 50% given of their original stake.
It's just an idea, the community needs to decide if they are willing to do it.
Surely we don't want to go back that route again. This was long discussed and at the end people that missed the original deadline were given 3 extra months after launch to claim. If he missed both deadlines is only a fault of his own, although he will obviously blame others. I agree. Lets not go through this crap again. He missed the deadline thats it. done sorry to sound cold but thats it. the devs gave extra few months past the deadline. If you didn't bother to check your stake then too bad. we all have problems sometimes, but I still try to look at the what is goin on with the community. If we do it for one now then whats to say another person says they missed the claim 5 months down the road, then what? deadline is a deadline.
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