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April 06, 2015, 10:57:38 PM
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Someone reported a pretty bad blunder in the documentation in the GitHub repo: https://github.com/magi-project/magi/issues/7.

In short, Debian 8 (Jessie) removes libdb4.8 from the official repositories, which the wallets rely on to be built and several other build dependencies were missing from the build documentation.

I added the missing dependencies to the documentation in my pull request, but I didn't want to make the decision to change the Berkeley DB version for the official builds as well, since it will screw up the usage of wallet.dat between user-compiled and official versions. I do think, however, that it would be best to officially migrate to libdb5.1 for official builds because it's one more thing that will work out of the box for users.

(If the devs talk it over and want to bump up the version to 5.1, let me know and I'll add that to my pull request.)
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April 07, 2015, 03:01:05 AM
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Someone reported a pretty bad blunder in the documentation in the GitHub repo: https://github.com/magi-project/magi/issues/7.

In short, Debian 8 (Jessie) removes libdb4.8 from the official repositories, which the wallets rely on to be built and several other build dependencies were missing from the build documentation.

I added the missing dependencies to the documentation in my pull request, but I didn't want to make the decision to change the Berkeley DB version for the official builds as well, since it will screw up the usage of wallet.dat between user-compiled and official versions. I do think, however, that it would be best to officially migrate to libdb5.1 for official builds because it's one more thing that will work out of the box for users.

(If the devs talk it over and want to bump up the version to 5.1, let me know and I'll add that to my pull request.)

feldenthorne, thanks for the heads up. Let's move to version 5.1. I shall build the binaries as well.


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April 07, 2015, 03:18:57 AM
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feldenthorne, thanks for the heads up. Let's move to version 5.1. I shall build the binaries as well.

Alright, sounds good. That simplifies the unix build readmes as well since the ARM builds were using 5.1 by default.

For Windows builds, this will mean switching to build 5.1.29.NC from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/database-technologies/berkeleydb/downloads/index-082944.html, since the previous dependency is 4.8.30.NC. Once you confirm that that's fine, I'll update my pull request.
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April 07, 2015, 04:16:18 AM
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feldenthorne, thanks for the heads up. Let's move to version 5.1. I shall build the binaries as well.

Alright, sounds good. That simplifies the unix build readmes as well since the ARM builds were using 5.1 by default.

For Windows builds, this will mean switching to build 5.1.29.NC from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/database-technologies/berkeleydb/downloads/index-082944.html, since the previous dependency is 4.8.30.NC. Once you confirm that that's fine, I'll update my pull request.

Yes, this looks fine, while I haven't yet done the compilation; will do so in the following days. 


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April 07, 2015, 04:16:18 AM
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Working together. Awesome to watch this!
Well done!

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April 07, 2015, 04:22:21 AM
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The tour consists of multiple assignments for which you can receive some XMG.

Check here: http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=3315.msg89738#msg89738

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April 07, 2015, 04:30:33 AM
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mining really is hard now. as i understand the bigger the hashrate is the lesser the reward right?

isnt it possible to limit the hashrate of an account.?

like for example in supernova you can only have 1 worker?
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April 07, 2015, 04:36:04 AM
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mining really is hard now. as i understand the bigger the hashrate is the lesser the reward right?

isnt it possible to limit the hashrate of an account.?

like for example in supernova you can only have 1 worker?

Exactly; we're trying to get this option for PoM.


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April 07, 2015, 06:49:41 AM
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feldenthorne, thanks for the heads up. Let's move to version 5.1. I shall build the binaries as well.

Alright, sounds good. That simplifies the unix build readmes as well since the ARM builds were using 5.1 by default.

For Windows builds, this will mean switching to build 5.1.29.NC from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/database-technologies/berkeleydb/downloads/index-082944.html, since the previous dependency is 4.8.30.NC. Once you confirm that that's fine, I'll update my pull request.

Yes, this looks fine, while I haven't yet done the compilation; will do so in the following days. 

Alright, my armv7l_official branch (the one that's pull requested) has been updated to build with BDB 5.1 by default. It compiles and works on x86 Ubuntu and ARM v6 and v7. Not sure about Windows or OSX, but I updated the documentation and makefiles for everything with the proper package names. So it needs testing on OSX and Windows, but I think it should be good to go.
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April 07, 2015, 08:38:03 AM
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Thanks for that Feldenthorne.

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April 07, 2015, 09:18:22 AM
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No man, i read your reply, but like you said, it's easier for big miners than small miners to reduce the hashrate. An example is like me, I have 125KH/s, i can lower to 50KH/s, but how about another miners? If they stay the same, hoping for another miners lower, then they'll get more than another people?  Grin Then after some days, i'll mine with full speed again Tongue Tongue Is there anyway to make ALL miners reduce their hashrate by half?  Grin Grin No i think  Grin

I do think that one important development in this respect is Sweet Spot targeting. I have been using it for some time and you will see my hashrate on the pool(s) going up and down as the block rewards get bigger and smaller respectively. It saves on my electricity bill, but better than that it is "one in the eye" to the big miners. When block rewards are low, let the big miners thrash away at it for peanuts, then when the bigger block rewards come along, give them some serious competition. I love it. Large numbers of smaller miners using this kind of targeting will have a significant effect.

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April 07, 2015, 09:28:27 AM
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No man, i read your reply, but like you said, it's easier for big miners than small miners to reduce the hashrate. An example is like me, I have 125KH/s, i can lower to 50KH/s, but how about another miners? If they stay the same, hoping for another miners lower, then they'll get more than another people?  Grin Then after some days, i'll mine with full speed again Tongue Tongue Is there anyway to make ALL miners reduce their hashrate by half?  Grin Grin No i think  Grin

I do think that one important development in this respect is Sweet Spot targeting. I have been using it for some time and you will see my hashrate on the pool(s) going up and down as the block rewards get bigger and smaller respectively. It saves on my electricity bill, but better than that it is "one in the eye" to the big miners. When block rewards are low, let the big miners thrash away at it for peanuts, then when the bigger block rewards come along, give them some serious competition. I love it. Large numbers of smaller miners using this kind of targeting will have a significant effect.


hey is that sweet spot targeting already available for download? that is why i stopped mining. i saw the block rewards as low as 0.8 i think. there is no point mining right now if you only have 1 miner.
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April 07, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
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In order to spread the word about Coin Magi, there is now a puzzle contest with a XMG 1,000 prize available on http://www.coinmagipuzzle.org/
The idea is to have as many Coin Magi supporters play the game and submit their score, so their record score is shared among friends on Facebook.
Please do not set a worldrecord right away, as that will demotivate others to give it a try, and the goal is to get as many new people as possible get to know Coin Magi!

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Wow nice! Awesome job Digithusiast.

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April 07, 2015, 10:49:54 AM
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Another new wrinkle in the BDB updating:

I was reading the packages for Debian incorrectly (and it was pointed out on GitHub)- libdb5.1-dev is only available by default in Debian 7 (wheezy), not Debian 8 (jessie). I really don't know how you'd like to handle that as a dev team. Debian 7 is the "stable" release and Debian 8 is the "testing" release, but I really don't know much about the usage statistics for Debian in terms of what version is more popular.

Since Ubuntu 14.04 and Debian 8 both default to using BDB 5.3, though, it may be a reasonable option to just shoot for BDB 5.3 as the actual upgrade choice. Debian 7 users can also use the backports repositories to download libdb5.3 reasonably easily, which means that Ubuntu 13 (and even 12 LTS, I think) users can also compile with minimal effort. I also checked the Raspberry Pi repositories and it appears that armv6l and armv7l both have access to libdb5.3-dev libraries as well (which makes sense since it's based on Debian, but it wasn't certain). And Gentoo and FreeBSD appear to have libdb5.3-dev too.

Windows and OSX can use the easily-accessible BDB 5.3.28.NC release from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/database-technologies/berkeleydb/downloads/index-082944.html, so the two more prominent platforms should have no problem either.

This time my research into package availability was a little more extensive, so everything should work out if you decide on BDB 5.3. But that will inevitably force people that are using older Linux releases (however many there are) to compile the BDB libraries themselves. If they're on older releases, though, they're probably more comfortable with compiling... But it's also another hoop to go through.

Some community input on this might be best, to determine if this will affect anyone enough to take them out of their comfort zone... But I suppose upgrading to BDB 5.1 could have had the same effect.

In the end, though, it's your choice as developers to make the call. I can revert to BDB 4.8 if you'd rather stick with that, keep it at 5.1, or rework everything for 5.3. Just let me know.
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hey is that sweet spot targeting already available for download? that is why i stopped mining. i saw the block rewards as low as 0.8 i think. there is no point mining right now if you only have 1 miner.

Sweet Spot ...

http://xmg.makejar.com

... plus I will release my bolt-on variant in a couple of few hours time. Just applying finishing touches now.

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April 07, 2015, 02:18:16 PM
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Another new wrinkle in the BDB updating:

I was reading the packages for Debian incorrectly (and it was pointed out on GitHub)- libdb5.1-dev is only available by default in Debian 7 (wheezy), not Debian 8 (jessie). I really don't know how you'd like to handle that as a dev team. Debian 7 is the "stable" release and Debian 8 is the "testing" release, but I really don't know much about the usage statistics for Debian in terms of what version is more popular.

Since Ubuntu 14.04 and Debian 8 both default to using BDB 5.3, though, it may be a reasonable option to just shoot for BDB 5.3 as the actual upgrade choice. Debian 7 users can also use the backports repositories to download libdb5.3 reasonably easily, which means that Ubuntu 13 (and even 12 LTS, I think) users can also compile with minimal effort. I also checked the Raspberry Pi repositories and it appears that armv6l and armv7l both have access to libdb5.3-dev libraries as well (which makes sense since it's based on Debian, but it wasn't certain). And Gentoo and FreeBSD appear to have libdb5.3-dev too.

Windows and OSX can use the easily-accessible BDB 5.3.28.NC release from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/database-technologies/berkeleydb/downloads/index-082944.html, so the two more prominent platforms should have no problem either.

This time my research into package availability was a little more extensive, so everything should work out if you decide on BDB 5.3. But that will inevitably force people that are using older Linux releases (however many there are) to compile the BDB libraries themselves. If they're on older releases, though, they're probably more comfortable with compiling... But it's also another hoop to go through.

Some community input on this might be best, to determine if this will affect anyone enough to take them out of their comfort zone... But I suppose upgrading to BDB 5.1 could have had the same effect.

In the end, though, it's your choice as developers to make the call. I can revert to BDB 4.8 if you'd rather stick with that, keep it at 5.1, or rework everything for 5.3. Just let me know.

This is a thing I didn't notice; I checked my Mac os compilation which acutally used the version 6. I agree that we should stick to one version. It is likely that the future release of linux (debian and else) steps into more than 5.3. It won't be a big concern if the wallet gets updated by that time as well; let me check it out and fix the way we should take.


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April 07, 2015, 02:19:39 PM
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In order to spread the word about Coin Magi, there is now a puzzle contest with a XMG 1,000 prize available on http://www.coinmagipuzzle.org/
The idea is to have as many Coin Magi supporters play the game and submit their score, so their record score is shared among friends on Facebook.
Please do not set a worldrecord right away, as that will demotivate others to give it a try, and the goal is to get as many new people as possible get to know Coin Magi!

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Thank you very much Digithusiast, great work.  Smiley


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April 07, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
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In order to spread the word about Coin Magi, there is now a puzzle contest with a XMG 1,000 prize available on http://www.coinmagipuzzle.org/
The idea is to have as many Coin Magi supporters play the game and submit their score, so their record score is shared among friends on Facebook.
Please do not set a worldrecord right away, as that will demotivate others to give it a try, and the goal is to get as many new people as possible get to know Coin Magi!

www.coinmagipuzzle.org



Did post it in a tweet, not using FB anymore.
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April 07, 2015, 03:51:04 PM
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In order to spread the word about Coin Magi, there is now a puzzle contest with a XMG 1,000 prize available on http://www.coinmagipuzzle.org/
The idea is to have as many Coin Magi supporters play the game and submit their score, so their record score is shared among friends on Facebook.
Please do not set a worldrecord right away, as that will demotivate others to give it a try, and the goal is to get as many new people as possible get to know Coin Magi!

www.coinmagipuzzle.org



Wow nice game and nice reward  Wink
But what do you mean "fastest"? The lowest time or the lowest moves?  Huh Huh
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April 07, 2015, 04:13:21 PM
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http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=3315.msg89738#msg89738

Reminder: There are some task here you all can do or already did. Example some of you already follow @103tango and @coinmagi so all you have to do it make nice tweet about Magi and the task is completed.
Check out the tasks and see what you can do or already did and receive some free XMG.

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