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October 16, 2014, 11:50:29 PM
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... save space ..

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!


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The sender has quit and restarted his anoncoin-qt client multiple times over the last week.  He also has waited each time for the wallet to sync completely and kept the client open for a while after.  He also has made sure he is connected to peers (hence why it is syncing).  Just to clarify again, one of the transactions took a few days and the other transaction has yet to confirm and it has been about a week.

Thanks for everyone's help I'm just wondering why this has happened.

Just launch it with -rescan

for windows: edit shortcut (default path) and put what is between [], keep the "" and -rescan must follow : ["C:\Program Files (x86)\Anoncoin\anoncoin-qt.exe" -rescan]

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October 16, 2014, 11:55:36 PM
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This is false: unconfirmed transaction are not visible in the blockchain explorer (because not included in a block)...

Those transactions are stuck in the mempool https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_specification#mempool

When K1773R will have mined them they will be in the block explorer. The solo-miners shall add this to their anoncoin.conf as already stated by K1773R.

Code:
blockminsize=0
blockmaxsize=1000000
blockprioritysize=1000000


afaik, if your transactions are making it to the block chain they'd at least be visible here: http://ancblockchain.com/chain/Anoncoin

If they were supersize xactions, they'd still be visible, even if they sat there for hours/days with zero confirmations being ignored by miners.

you could fire up the client again and check, or follow a get raw and send raw procedure ...

Check out this excellent resource so kindly provided by our friends at Dark coin:
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/frozen-transactions-why-it-happens-and-how-to-fix-it.1649/



What about a transaction I made from Bittrex to Cryptsy? Basically Bittrex page shows my transaction is confirmed but it does not show up in the blockchain..

Bittrex address: AWQNFCwMBomJWxNLT2RrXnvtVbt1tL4yQU
Cryptsy address: AYUpQqCftJbQEqpuvw4RrQKz19gFtC2VFC
Txid: 838e3b333ac6a64e5eed95c320bdee2ff2121dac170a634fbe498f739d2257c9


greetings,
Clyze
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October 17, 2014, 12:22:01 AM
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This is false: unconfirmed transaction are not visible in the blockchain explorer (because not included in a block)...

Those transactions are stuck in the mempool https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_specification#mempool

When K1773R will have mined them they will be in the block explorer. The solo-miners shall add this to their anoncoin.conf as already stated by K1773R.

Code:
blockminsize=0
blockmaxsize=1000000
blockprioritysize=1000000


afaik, if your transactions are making it to the block chain they'd at least be visible here: http://ancblockchain.com/chain/Anoncoin

If they were supersize xactions, they'd still be visible, even if they sat there for hours/days with zero confirmations being ignored by miners.

you could fire up the client again and check, or follow a get raw and send raw procedure ...

Check out this excellent resource so kindly provided by our friends at Dark coin:
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/frozen-transactions-why-it-happens-and-how-to-fix-it.1649/



What about a transaction I made from Bittrex to Cryptsy? Basically Bittrex page shows my transaction is confirmed but it does not show up in the blockchain..

Bittrex address: AWQNFCwMBomJWxNLT2RrXnvtVbt1tL4yQU
Cryptsy address: AYUpQqCftJbQEqpuvw4RrQKz19gFtC2VFC
Txid: 838e3b333ac6a64e5eed95c320bdee2ff2121dac170a634fbe498f739d2257c9


greetings,
Clyze

Still??

Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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October 17, 2014, 01:18:34 AM
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Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 10/9/14 19:59:24
To: AbEpDTco7Yti44FrpN1aNrAz4mnp3abZpK
Transaction ID: 1836307ef77ea6bb849491373b171d37d7e23f79ebe0b61a44285583572729c8
Still not confirmed

Hey mate; we're on the same boat. I have withdrawn my ANC about 4-5 days ago and still no signs of life.... We should support K1773Rand ask if the community wants to help him mine in his pool or add a new file to their settings.. so that the stuck tx can be mined through..

https://i.imgur.com/L2giAVm.jpg?rePostAllTheThings!
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October 17, 2014, 01:21:35 AM
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Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 10/9/14 19:59:24
To: AbEpDTco7Yti44FrpN1aNrAz4mnp3abZpK
Transaction ID: 1836307ef77ea6bb849491373b171d37d7e23f79ebe0b61a44285583572729c8
Still not confirmed

Hey mate; we're on the same boat. I have withdrawn my ANC about 4-5 days ago and still no signs of life.... We should support K1773Rand ask if the community wants to help him mine in his pool or add a new file to their settings.. so that the stuck tx can be mined through..



I could mine over 1BTC a month just on a CPU on a basic desktop computer but it was very unprofitable to do so and leave the PC on overnight just over three years ago..

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October 17, 2014, 02:49:59 AM
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I have to say, I am really concerned about people not being able to even transfer coins from one wallet to the other. When is this going to get fixed? Who cares about Zerocoin if you can't even make a transaction.

Tell me why I shouldn't be worried?
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October 17, 2014, 04:42:39 AM
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I have to say, I am really concerned about people not being able to even transfer coins from one wallet to the other. When is this going to get fixed? Who cares about Zerocoin if you can't even make a transaction.

Tell me why I shouldn't be worried?

Yep my coins are stuck, at this stage the foundation of the coin is broken - I care not about ZeroCoin at this point.,..
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October 17, 2014, 04:54:56 AM
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I have to say, I am really concerned about people not being able to even transfer coins from one wallet to the other. When is this going to get fixed? Who cares about Zerocoin if you can't even make a transaction.

Tell me why I shouldn't be worried?

Yep my coins are stuck, at this stage the foundation of the coin is broken - I care not about ZeroCoin at this point.,..

I would rather they fork it to the multi aux pow first myself, that way at least the mining and normal TX problems would be over. I think most of us are realistic enough to know delays are inevitable with this sort of undertaking anyway. Basic anon is hard, Zerocoin has never even been done successfully before. Fix the foundation I say, let us mine, move coins around. Take whatever time they need with zerocoin. Those that believe can then mine, trade, and accumulate as desired.

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October 17, 2014, 04:59:18 AM
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I have to say, I am really concerned about people not being able to even transfer coins from one wallet to the other. When is this going to get fixed? Who cares about Zerocoin if you can't even make a transaction.

Tell me why I shouldn't be worried?

Yep my coins are stuck, at this stage the foundation of the coin is broken - I care not about ZeroCoin at this point.,..

I'm no expert on this but others here are and they need more information
ie: getinfo for example of your client

so, there's 3 non=propagated Xactions here ?

robinson5 1836307ef77ea6bb849491373b171d37d7e23f79ebe0b61a44285583572729c8
clyze 838e3b333ac6a64e5eed95c320bdee2ff2121dac170a634fbe498f739d2257c9

stealth923 - can you give your xaction id ?
Have you looked at darkcoin's procedure ? you should know where that is


BTC: 1gunzeo8X7iYznsnmgveUQDuRj6vhzyK6 ~~~
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October 17, 2014, 09:53:59 AM
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robinson5 (and stealth923 ?), unconfirmed transactions can happen with every coin (and this is unrelated to the bigger-than-100kb-transaction-size issue from the exchanges)
I'm not an expert so anyone feel free to correct, but there are at least 2 things you can do:

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UNCONFIRMED TRANSACTIONS
What to do before saying Coin is broken
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if your peers connexions are not good enough, transactions could be not well broadcasted. I think unconfirmed transactions are re-broadcasted regularly if you leave the wallet open (every 90 minutes ?). If this doesn't help, try the following:

1. Rescan while your wallet is shut down:
linux: 
Code:
anoncoin-qt -rescan
windows (I think, not sure):
Code:
anoncoin-qt.exe -rescan


If the transaction isn't broadcasted to other nodes, you may not be very connected to others, or not enough. It might really be a network/peers issue with your wallet/computer/firewall/ISP (?)
Do the following:

2. get your transaction id :
Run the wallet, and in the details, get to the unconfirmed transaction id, right click to get the transaction id. Then go to the console inside the wallet (help > debug window > console) and type this:
Code:
getrawtransaction <transaction ID>​

replace <transaction ID> with the actual transaction ID you got previously in the wallet sent transactions details.

You will then get a very large number.
What you should do now is give that number to someone else who has his own anoncoin wallet well connected to network of peers, and let him broadcast the transaction for you, by going in his wallet console (help > debug window > console) and typing:

Code:
sendrawtransaction 02bf32c36565verylargenumbershortened

(the raw transaction is very bigger than this above Wink )


CONCLUSION
========
If and only if these methods didn't work, provide any error message and/or screenshots before saying the coin is broken please.

If you dont believe this can happen in other coins (even bitcoin), search for "darkcoin frozen transactions how to fix it".

Hope that helps...
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October 17, 2014, 10:46:19 AM
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Here is an update before I sleep: I've been fixing some issues and general improvements to lay the groundwork for tomorrow. I'll catch up to schedule then.

Also, thanks Alacast for helping people help themselves. Smiley

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October 17, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
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Good to see that meeh is alive

https://twitter.com/AnonCoinProject
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October 17, 2014, 03:17:26 PM
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Man, the gobitgo guide for JohnTheRipper installation turned out to be much more work and hazzle than I thought. It stops at point 5.6 "nano Makefile" where what comes up is nowhere near the picture in the guide. So no closer to opening my wallet.

Walletrecoveryservices is building in temptation, but 1000 anc is a very stiff price  Cry
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October 17, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
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Man, the gobitgo guide for JohnTheRipper installation turned out to be much more work and hazzle than I thought. It stops at point 5.6 "nano Makefile" where what comes up is nowhere near the picture in the guide. So no closer to opening my wallet.

Walletrecoveryservices is building in temptation, but 1000 anc is a very stiff price  Cry
What is your problem? Send me a PM if its privat.

[GPG Public Key]
BTC/DVC/TRC/FRC: 1K1773RbXRZVRQSSXe9N6N2MUFERvrdu6y ANC/XPM AK1773RTmRKtvbKBCrUu95UQg5iegrqyeA NMC: NK1773Rzv8b4ugmCgX789PbjewA9fL9Dy1 LTC: LKi773RBuPepQH8E6Zb1ponoCvgbU7hHmd EMC: EK1773RxUes1HX1YAGMZ1xVYBBRUCqfDoF BQC: bK1773R1APJz4yTgRkmdKQhjhiMyQpJgfN
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October 17, 2014, 03:55:50 PM
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Man, the gobitgo guide for JohnTheRipper installation turned out to be much more work and hazzle than I thought. It stops at point 5.6 "nano Makefile" where what comes up is nowhere near the picture in the guide. So no closer to opening my wallet.

Walletrecoveryservices is building in temptation, but 1000 anc is a very stiff price  Cry
What is your problem? Send me a PM if its privat.

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=227287.msg9201188#msg9201188

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October 17, 2014, 04:55:50 PM
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Man, the gobitgo guide for JohnTheRipper installation turned out to be much more work and hazzle than I thought. It stops at point 5.6 "nano Makefile" where what comes up is nowhere near the picture in the guide. So no closer to opening my wallet.

Walletrecoveryservices is building in temptation, but 1000 anc is a very stiff price  Cry
What is your problem? Send me a PM if its privat.

Forgot my password Sad Trying to install the cracker in a virtual machine.
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October 17, 2014, 05:13:19 PM
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Man, the gobitgo guide for JohnTheRipper installation turned out to be much more work and hazzle than I thought. It stops at point 5.6 "nano Makefile" where what comes up is nowhere near the picture in the guide. So no closer to opening my wallet.

Walletrecoveryservices is building in temptation, but 1000 anc is a very stiff price  Cry
What is your problem? Send me a PM if its privat.

Forgot my password Sad Trying to install the cracker in a virtual machine.

Walletrecoveryservices did not charge 10% the last time : )
He just said It would be great to get him a coffee, the wallet was $1500 worth.

Bargain with him.

Anyway - all the mistakes I did were really really stupid, I hope you have been as stupid as me. Did you try out most  varieties?
I often got confused with "I" and "l" and "C" and "c" or "o" "O" "0".

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October 17, 2014, 05:41:01 PM
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Anyway - all the mistakes I did were really really stupid, I hope you have been as stupid as me. Did you try out most  varieties?
I often got confused with "I" and "l" and "C" and "c" or "o" "O" "0".

http://www.graphics20.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Funny-Stupid-53.jpg
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October 17, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
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Anyway - all the mistakes I did were really really stupid, I hope you have been as stupid as me. Did you try out most  varieties?
I often got confused with "I" and "l" and "C" and "c" or "o" "O" "0".

Troll stuff blah blah blah. Edited out stupid image.



Interesting article, you can tell me if you fit into this profile. This article say your psychopathic, narcissistic and a sadistic.. Interesting read especially for you, and anybody who is interested.  So An0njok3 are you psychopathic?

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html
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October 17, 2014, 06:53:20 PM
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robinson5 (and stealth923 ?), unconfirmed transactions can happen with every coin (and this is unrelated to the bigger-than-100kb-transaction-size issue from the exchanges)
I'm not an expert so anyone feel free to correct, but there are at least 2 things you can do:

=====================
UNCONFIRMED TRANSACTIONS
What to do before saying Coin is broken
  Tongue
=====================
if your peers connexions are not good enough, transactions could be not well broadcasted. I think unconfirmed transactions are re-broadcasted regularly if you leave the wallet open (every 90 minutes ?). If this doesn't help, try the following:

1. Rescan while your wallet is shut down:
linux: 
Code:
anoncoin-qt -rescan
windows (I think, not sure):
Code:
anoncoin-qt.exe -rescan


If the transaction isn't broadcasted to other nodes, you may not be very connected to others, or not enough. It might really be a network/peers issue with your wallet/computer/firewall/ISP (?)
Do the following:

2. get your transaction id :
Run the wallet, and in the details, get to the unconfirmed transaction id, right click to get the transaction id. Then go to the console inside the wallet (help > debug window > console) and type this:
Code:
getrawtransaction <transaction ID>​

replace <transaction ID> with the actual transaction ID you got previously in the wallet sent transactions details.

You will then get a very large number.
What you should do now is give that number to someone else who has his own anoncoin wallet well connected to network of peers, and let him broadcast the transaction for you, by going in his wallet console (help > debug window > console) and typing:

Code:
sendrawtransaction 02bf32c36565verylargenumbershortened

(the raw transaction is very bigger than this above Wink )


CONCLUSION
========
If and only if these methods didn't work, provide any error message and/or screenshots before saying the coin is broken please.

If you dont believe this can happen in other coins (even bitcoin), search for "darkcoin frozen transactions how to fix it".

Hope that helps...


Thanks so much alacast! I'll definitely ask him to rescan the transaction.  Sorry, I didn't mean to imply the coin was broken. I thought it was related to the 100kb problem and if it was happening to wallets as well it should be addressed asap because that would be really bad.  But if this is a normal thing that occasionally happens to all coins then that's great.  Once we switch the difficulty algo and hopefully fix the exchange issues we will have really good framework set for zerocoin in testnet.
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