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I am trying it right now on Fedora, CGminer 3.7.2. But my hashrate per card drops from 870 to about 800...
Yeah, mine drops a bit too during coin switches but then ramps back up again. I can live with it until H20 makes the coding changes to the server to help with coin switches. |
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January 03, 2014, 03:19:48 PM |
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I am trying it right now on Fedora, CGminer 3.7.2. But my hashrate per card drops from 870 to about 800...
Yeah, mine drops a bit too during coin switches but then ramps back up again. I can live with it until H20 makes the coding changes to the server to help with coin switches. How do you reconize a coin switch? |
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January 03, 2014, 03:39:17 PM |
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How do you reconize a coin switch?
I am assuming it is when a new block is detected with a new difficulty. |
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Dende
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January 03, 2014, 03:40:37 PM |
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are you looking to launch any server instances in the Sydney region as well as there are a number of Australian miners who would appreciate a regional hub to use.
First I'm going to fix up the EU server, then I'm setting up either Toyko, Singapore, or Hong Kong. Then I'll look at other places like Australia. Singapore would still be great for us Aussies... Should mean roughly 100ms ping Yes! Singapore please! I am hoping for Singapore server as well  |
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pallas
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January 03, 2014, 03:54:46 PM |
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Is that true? What ping do you have?
Its very true. Try it yourself. Cgminer 3.7.2 happily switches to new coins with no issues with no failover set. My ping to the US server 100ms. Sorry but I would not suggest running without a failover, unless you can monitor the miner constantly. I can imagine a lot of scenarios where you could loose a lot of mining time by not having a failover, even though middlecoin might run fine. For example a problem on dns resolution, ip routing or whatever. |
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January 03, 2014, 03:57:50 PM |
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Similar things happened to me. Yesterday, my unexchanged dropped from 0.023 to 0.003, but I didn't get any payments or balance http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1CKi6ZS34WRMXF24ZAvaQkyDDYAZfzTs1N.htmlSo a few pages back someone was complaining about how h2o holds the coins before exchanging them... Although I agree that h2o does a decent job when it comes to exchanging, I too see a problem with this, with an example.
I check my balance/unexchanged/immature every hour or so. I checked it and my balance was .0030 (after payout of course), my unexchanged was .03195, and my immature was .01233. Now I check it, and my balance is still .0030, my unexchanged has gone down to .0254 and my immature has gone down to .0054. I understand with the immature coins you can't exchange them, but since my mature unexchanged coins didn't get auto-traded, I lost .006 btc. I understand this isn't much, but if it effects me, then I'm sure it's effected others that had a higher unexchanged balance.
I saw the same behavior. I think it may have something to do with timing of exchanging coins and updating of middlecoin JSON. See spikes in my graph below, which suggest that nothing is "lost", since graph resumes approximately where it left off after downward spike. My graphs are different from coinGeek's because I plot summation of Immature (purple shading), Unexchanged (yellow shading) and Exchanged (green shading). So on my graph, there should always be an upwards slope. The spike and then recovery could impy that Unexchanged coins were sent to be exchanged, but JSON was written before Exchanged balance was updated. It may also have something to do with the Immature coin balance temporarily dropping to zero, though I'm not sure why. Regardless, the balances appear correct in is following JSON updates. Bottom line: I don't believe you "lost" any unexchanged coins. https://i.imgur.com/7ZA93x0.pngSometimes the exchange APIs go down causing the unexchanged/immature coin values to not display correctly. You don't lose any value when that happens, and it should come back to a higher value when the exchanges come back online. Also, coins tend to increase in value as often as they drop in value during the time before exchange. In fact, from my experience, the exchange frequently results in more BTC than estimated (which a good autotrading program should). The payout is always timely, so I have no issues with any of this. |
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youngmathimus
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January 03, 2014, 04:01:54 PM |
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Kluge
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January 03, 2014, 04:03:33 PM |
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That's messed up for a couple reasons. It looks like you were overpaid last time, had a negative "payout" balance after payout, and something broke. |
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January 03, 2014, 04:09:40 PM |
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That's messed up for a couple reasons. It looks like you were overpaid last time, had a negative "payout" balance after payout, and something broke. Yes, something is wrong there. I would suggest PM'ing the OP if you have not doen so already. Your issues look like they have nothing to do with coins devaluing or exchanges going down, more like a database issue on middlecoin. |
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envy2010
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January 03, 2014, 04:12:24 PM |
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How do you reconize a coin switch?
I am assuming it is when a new block is detected with a new difficulty. Some coins retarget difficulty after every block, so a slightly different new difficulty doesn't always mean a coin switch. If the difficulty changes by 2x or 4x than that's probably a coin switch. cgminer/middlecoin seems to handle the retargeting OK, but an actual coin switch stops work for 10 to 15 seconds. |
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SimonG
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January 03, 2014, 04:50:14 PM |
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Very disappointing performance on US server.
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Hash Rate: 1.17 MH/s
Shares Last Hour: 126
EU: at least 1.5 MH/S and 160+ shares
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MiMiMiner
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January 03, 2014, 05:00:04 PM |
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But the EU is on DOGE right now. Where do you made the most profit?
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January 03, 2014, 05:09:38 PM |
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But the EU is on DOGE right now. Where do you made the most profit?
I think Dogecoin is still better until h20 fix US server. Difficulty is down -17.49 % while market price is still at 0.00000042. |
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bal3wolf
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January 03, 2014, 05:27:12 PM |
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Is that true? What ping do you have?
Its very true. Try it yourself. Cgminer 3.7.2 happily switches to new coins with no issues with no failover set. My ping to the US server 100ms. you lose some earnings doing that with all the getwork fails that the gpu drops its usage to 0 in 1 hr i had 50 getwork fails and my gpu usage was up and down using load balance still have them but gpu usge stays maxed out. |
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January 03, 2014, 05:50:21 PM |
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Very disappointing performance on US server.
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Hash Rate: 1.17 MH/s
Shares Last Hour: 126
EU: at least 1.5 MH/S and 160+ shares
Bump! I guess we will just have to wait. |
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jimprofit99
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January 03, 2014, 05:56:55 PM |
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When it comes to balance, keep in mind that immature & unexchanged are just estimates in BTC as their name state. If the market go down, your immature & unexchanged coins worth less.
Yes I know, and that's exactly my point, if the coins had been auto-exchanged like the pool states, then I would have gotten the original amount stated, rather than the decreased amount that happened when the value of the unexchanged coins went down. I don't think anyone can predict a coins value in advance. If you can then by all means please do. Lol, I wish I could predict the future price of a coin. But I'm not asking about future prices, I'm asking about the current estimate. If the current estimate says 1BTC then I should get 1BTC if I trade it right then and there. But if it says current estimate is 1BTC and I don't trade it then, then the value can go up or down, and in this case it went down since it wasn't auto-traded when it was the original estimate. I hope I'm making sense. As it states, it's an estimate based on the last known price... it does not predict the future. ex: last trade @ 0.05 with a volume of 1000, then nobody want it @ more than 0.04. You may want sell your coins as much as you want @ 0.05, if there is no market to buy them, you will have to wait or lower your price. Then you want to get the best price, but so other guys don't care and sell @ 0.04... and there we are, the last price fall @ 0.04, and your estimate go down. Conclusion, H2O keep the coin unexchanged longer to get a better price if possible... and if you look closer, you'll see that the red line increase usually more than the decrease in unexchanged coins, which is the sign of a good trade. |
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January 03, 2014, 06:29:50 PM |
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This looks like it's gonna be the worst day for me in the pool. Located in EU using the US server. decided to test this. And it looks horrible. using the load balance command too, and the fixed cgminer for middlecoin. Think I'll swap back tonight before I go to bed.
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pindis
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January 03, 2014, 06:31:50 PM |
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Wow the last guy is really bouncing in some profit compared to you. I have no idea whats going on. I have the same issue. Think I'll roll back to EU |
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January 03, 2014, 06:35:42 PM |
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I've had similar rates: http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/14Cdwieeud1tno3Vutm4Hv9RF2ytyJWPLz.htmlUsing load-balancing on everything for most of the last 18 hours, before that EU only. I think the hit to DOGE over the last couple days has the EU profitability down. Switching to just the US server about 2 hours ago has my unexchanged going up faster, not helping my balance though. Altcoins in general have done badly the last day or two, so I would not expect a good payout until they recover. |
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