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Author Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s  (Read 787812 times)
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December 03, 2013, 07:57:10 AM
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I know the BlackArrow launch is 2/24 but I was wondering when you estimate you will be shipping your X-1s to customers
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December 03, 2013, 10:36:33 AM
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Wait a minute!

What kind of shipping/delivery timeframe guarantees do we have per as your "Terms of Sale"? What about when the SELLER misses their own delivery timeframe of the product/service (including hosted)?? Not a single clause where Black Arrow takes the slightest responsibility? What kind of accountability is that? Please clarify and update your TOS:

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9.1 The Products are delivered to the delivery address specified by the Purchaser, unless otherwise agreed. The delivery date is provided for information purposes only and shall not be binding on Us.
The Purchaser is not entitled to refuse acceptance of the Products, withdraw, cancel or revoke the order or make claims for compensation due to ANY delayed delivery.

What?Huh So technically, you can choose to keep our payments forever without delivering absolutely anything?Huh?

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9.2 Where delivery is delayed due to any of the circumstances constituting force majeure in accordance with "Force Majeure" below or due to any act or omission by the Purchaser, 
the delivery period shall be extended by such a period as is reasonable in light of the circumstances.
The delivery period shall also be extended where the cause of the delay arises after the expiry of the originally agreed delivery period.

What's a "reasonable" extension period?
What kind of refunds would apply due to Seller delays??  Why are delays not explicitly mentioned as a reason to get any type of refunds?? This is the single most worrying part about Black Arrow....

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8.4 When the customer pays in different currency than USD, any liability we might have (refunds, repairs, etc) will be calculated in USD at the agreed exchange ratio at the time of payment. 
The customer understands that we are accepting payment in different currency only for the convenience of our customers. It is customer's choice to pay in different currency.

Are you saying that you'd refund us in BTC using the date of the refund request or the date of the original payment installments? That's not very clear.

 What about returning exactly the same amount of BTC we paid when a delay is caused by Black Arrow, which in turn causes miner not to break even in those same BTC terms?

Thanks for clarifying!
 
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December 03, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
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Ugh, hope it wont take 3 days for my next reply from BA to get my account fixed so I can pay them. lol
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December 03, 2013, 02:44:57 PM
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@bobsag3

I know the BlackArrow launch is 2/24 but I was wondering when you estimate you will be shipping your X-1s to customers
Same date.
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December 03, 2013, 03:19:46 PM
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@bobsag3

I know the BlackArrow launch is 2/24 but I was wondering when you estimate you will be shipping your X-1s to customers
Same date.
how are you so certain about the same date?
and don't they have to ship to you first before you can ship to your customers?
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December 03, 2013, 03:27:12 PM
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@bobsag3: I know the BlackArrow launch is 2/24 but I was wondering when you estimate you will be shipping your X-1s to customers
Same date.
how are you so certain about the same date?
and don't they have to ship to you first before you can ship to your customers?
I believe he means, he will ship the same date he receives them.  And since he's a registered Reseller with them, they probably communicate rough timelines to him.
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December 03, 2013, 03:29:20 PM
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first x1 render?
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December 03, 2013, 06:10:31 PM
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first x1 render?

Looks slick! Just hope they will make case openable in case any problems come up.
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December 03, 2013, 06:18:39 PM
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More tapeout progress here.

http://ecointalk.net/topic/303-minion-asic-tapeout-update/
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December 03, 2013, 06:55:39 PM
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first x1 render?

Is this box really sufficient for cooling the 55 Watt the ASIC chip consumes? Looks more like a box for something in the 5-15 W range. Just a thought.

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December 03, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
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Is this box really sufficient for cooling the 55 Watt the ASIC chip consumes? Looks more like a box for something in the 5-15 W range. Just a thought.

This is not the actual design. Just an artists conceptual render.
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December 03, 2013, 07:25:28 PM
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first x1 render?

Is this box really sufficient for cooling the 55 Watt the ASIC chip consumes? Looks more like a box for something in the 5-15 W range. Just a thought.


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December 03, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
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bobsag3, i'ff got to orders out on your website for a while now..

I'ff asked (email and trough website)for a BTC payment amount and payment adress serveral time but no reply's unfortunatly.

Could you email me plz. its regarding order number

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December 03, 2013, 10:15:54 PM
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bobsag3, i'ff got to orders out on your website for a while now..

I'ff asked (email and trough website)for a BTC payment amount and payment adress serveral time but no reply's unfortunatly.

Could you email me plz. its regarding order number

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I have about 200+ emails to go through, its slow going (my internet keeps going out today...)
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December 04, 2013, 03:02:32 AM
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Is the first batch still not sold out?
I haven't seen it mentioned here.
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December 04, 2013, 03:29:42 AM
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bobsag3, i'ff got to orders out on your website for a while now..

I'ff asked (email and trough website)for a BTC payment amount and payment adress serveral time but no reply's unfortunatly.

Could you email me plz. its regarding order number

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Thanks

I'ff = I've?  Just curious because the first sentence didn't make sense after I replace i'ff with I've unless "to" is meant to be "two".

Sorry to be a spelling dick but really... I'ff?!
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December 04, 2013, 03:35:43 AM
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Is the first batch still not sold out?
I haven't seen it mentioned here.

I asked the same, have yet to get an official response.

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December 04, 2013, 03:46:50 AM
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Is the first batch still not sold out?
I haven't seen it mentioned here.

I asked the same, have yet to get an official response.

I think I read somewhere the 1st batch was 8000 TH

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December 04, 2013, 07:49:57 AM
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My native language aint english (its dutch), sorry for my english in advance Smiley
you could understand it though, thats worth something Smiley

bobsag3, i'ff got to orders out on your website for a while now..

I'ff asked (email and trough website)for a BTC payment amount and payment adress serveral time but no reply's unfortunatly.

Could you email me plz. its regarding order number

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Thanks

I'ff = I've?  Just curious because the first sentence didn't make sense after I replace i'ff with I've unless "to" is meant to be "two".

Sorry to be a spelling dick but really... I'ff?!
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December 04, 2013, 08:22:53 AM
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my firends in China say this will be huge they know them, ordered a X3
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