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December 12, 2013, 10:31:44 PM
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So with april now as the delivery date, are prices going to come down?

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December 12, 2013, 10:33:45 PM
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The HTTPS thing is not much of an issue.  Your using Android right?  I had the same issue setting up a web site once.  Works fine on a PC, but not Android.  The SSL cert needs a complete chain.  Easy to fix.
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December 12, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
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Production capacity =/ how many miners they are making. Theres no such thing as unlimited wafers.

No, but of all things, wafer production capacity is the least likely bottleneck.   TSMC does 100s of 1000s of 28nm wafer starts per month and it is running below 70% utilization. Each wafer has potential for on the order of 25-50TH worth of asics. Timing and planning may be an issues, capacity is not. Just one day worth of (currently idle) TSMC production would result in over 500PH worth of asics.
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December 13, 2013, 12:36:28 AM
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The date is pushed to April?
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December 13, 2013, 12:49:29 AM
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Bobsag3 has answered that question above,the Apr date is for batch2. unfortunately BA nor minersource have used the terms Feb batch sold out! Per order now for Apr. or something similar and to add to the confusion BA has not changed the dates at all. please go top of page and read his reply

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December 13, 2013, 12:50:42 AM
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Glad I got my bitcoins to them as I have three prospero x-1 to be delivered Feb 24-ish 2014, can't wait as now I am lymping with 51 asics @ total 20Ghz

From Black Arrow 11/26/13: Dear customer,

Your order status has been changed to Processed. There is nothing you have to do now. We will contact you as soon as your order will be ready to ship.

Meanwhile please come back on our website as we will regularly post updates on our products and services. If you will have further questions or inquiries please feel free to contact us.

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December 13, 2013, 12:54:14 AM
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Glad to hear batch one sold out as that means tapeout and production should be fully underway, Im pretty stoked
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December 13, 2013, 12:55:04 AM
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So with april now as the delivery date, are prices going to come down?

I am waiting to see as well. Black Arrows site is still showing the 15% off the X-1 and X-3. It will be interesting to see what the pricing and discount will be once they update the site with the batch 2 info.  Id be choked if i ordered one today at these prices and then realized it was going to be 2 months late.

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December 13, 2013, 01:09:57 AM
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I would NOT think tape out is underway yet Undecided with all the heat they have been taking on the BA forums and complete lack of info I'm sure they would make big deal about tape out
when?if it happens

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December 13, 2013, 01:17:01 AM
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Hey guys,

I've finally caught up with the past 10 pages of posts. I had to take a day to do other things and haven't been able to catch up here since.

First off, I want to apologize on behalf of Black Arrow Software and the customer support team. Saying 'we're swamped' doesn't make you, our customers, feel any better about the delays in responses. That's the root of the problem though.

I saw a question about why not hiring more people. That's a great question. We don't want to hire more people for now because the work they'd do is temporary. We don't want to hire someone for a few months worth of work. We're looking for people who we can keep for a long period of time.

We're working on putting in an automated BTC payment system but that's progressing slowly. It will improve over time.

We're working on getting resellers established. That involves a detailed background check, forms, etc to try to ensure security of our customers. That is also progressing slowly and will improve customer support over time. If you're interested in becoming a reseller, PM me.

It's frustrating for us to be so far behind. One thing that adds to frustration is receiving the same questions over and over again. The paypal/credit card question, how do they work, requirements, etc. These questions are available in our knowledge base and other areas. We've answered everything  many times and it adds to response time.

I'll try my best to keep up and keep everyone informed.
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December 13, 2013, 01:28:25 AM
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Glad your on line Matt Grin I think the single most important question for most people is "tape out" When must that occur to meet the Feb 24 launch date? Are we close to having a tape out.

and he logs off as soon as i asked that Huh and that statement above looks like a cut/paste from a few days ago,said the same thing,told us nothing

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December 13, 2013, 01:56:57 AM
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Bobsag3 has answered that question above,the Apr date is for batch2. unfortunately BA nor minersource have used the terms Feb batch sold out! Per order now for Apr. or something similar and to add to the confusion BA has not changed the dates at all. please go top of page and read his reply

Well, that is unfortunate. If I had known this was coming I would have ordered last night. KNC is now looking much more attractive.
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December 13, 2013, 02:11:06 AM
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if I had it to do over again I won't order from BA at all,i get the gut feeling my $6500 is just gone with the wind,should have gone with bitmine.ch Angry

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December 13, 2013, 02:15:52 AM
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Bobsag3 has answered that question above,the Apr date is for batch2. unfortunately BA nor minersource have used the terms Feb batch sold out! Per order now for Apr. or something similar and to add to the confusion BA has not changed the dates at all. please go top of page and read his reply

Well, that is unfortunate. If I had known this was coming I would have ordered last night. KNC is now looking much more attractive.
It's strange how these ASIC manufactures can't maintain steady production, they have to leave large gaps and work in batches.

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December 13, 2013, 02:17:22 AM
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Bobsag3 has answered that question above,the Apr date is for batch2. unfortunately BA nor minersource have used the terms Feb batch sold out! Per order now for Apr. or something similar and to add to the confusion BA has not changed the dates at all. please go top of page and read his reply

Well, that is unfortunate. If I had known this was coming I would have ordered last night. KNC is now looking much more attractive.
It's strange how these ASIC manufactures can't maintain steady production, they have to leave large gaps and work in batches.



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December 13, 2013, 03:02:50 AM
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Bobsag3 has answered that question above,the Apr date is for batch2. unfortunately BA nor minersource have used the terms Feb batch sold out! Per order now for Apr. or something similar and to add to the confusion BA has not changed the dates at all. please go top of page and read his reply

Well, that is unfortunate. If I had known this was coming I would have ordered last night. KNC is now looking much more attractive.
It's strange how these ASIC manufactures can't maintain steady production, they have to leave large gaps and work in batches.



ordering 1000 chips for a small version1 batch is expensive, espescially when problems or room for improvement appear, and takes a lot of capital risk. Its easier to scale production then it is to run headlong into it with your entire budget

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December 13, 2013, 03:05:42 AM
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Bobsag3 has answered that question above,the Apr date is for batch2. unfortunately BA nor minersource have used the terms Feb batch sold out! Per order now for Apr. or something similar and to add to the confusion BA has not changed the dates at all. please go top of page and read his reply

Well, that is unfortunate. If I had known this was coming I would have ordered last night. KNC is now looking much more attractive.
It's strange how these ASIC manufactures can't maintain steady production, they have to leave large gaps and work in batches.



ordering 1000 chips for a small version1 batch is expensive, espescially when problems or room for improvement appear, and takes a lot of capital risk. Its easier to scale production then it is to run headlong into it with your entire budget
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December 13, 2013, 03:31:36 AM
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Glad your on line Matt Grin I think the single most important question for most people is "tape out" When must that occur to meet the Feb 24 launch date? Are we close to having a tape out.

and he logs off as soon as i asked that Huh and that statement above looks like a cut/paste from a few days ago,said the same thing,told us nothing

I actually logged off a minute after I posted to do other things like answer tickets. I didn't just leave to avoid your question. I can assure you that I didn't just copy/paste. I actually read all 10 pages and thought about what I wanted to say.

I'll look into any information we can release regarding tape out.
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My humble apologies then!

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My humble apologies then!

No worries.
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