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May 15, 2014, 04:34:32 PM |
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Not for nothing but when has BA met any shipping deadline. What gives you this blind faith? Everytime you feel good about them, punch in February 24th in the time machine: retrocalc.netThat should put you back to reality. I have no blind faith. Or faith at all for that matter. I'm just saying I don't know everyone is getting 2-3 weeks from. The BTC I paid for an X1, if I held it instead, today would only be worth $180. The retrocalc numbers are depressing - but imaginary. There was not a miner available, from anyone, at these price points that could have hit those numbers in that time frame. It's like saying hmm what if I had a 1g/h miner in 2010. It's depressing, but irrelevant, because you couldn't have. I don't care about what could have been or should have been I just want them to ship. I don't feel good about anyone, I'm not defending anyone. I want them to ship yesterday. I just don't feel like gathering with pitchforks in the town square with everyone else.
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ChuckBuck
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May 15, 2014, 04:40:01 PM |
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Not for nothing but when has BA met any shipping deadline. What gives you this blind faith? Everytime you feel good about them, punch in February 24th in the time machine: retrocalc.netThat should put you back to reality. I have no blind faith. Or faith at all for that matter. I'm just saying I don't know everyone is getting 2-3 weeks from. The BTC I paid for an X1, if I held it instead, today would only be worth $180. The retrocalc numbers are depressing - but imaginary. There was not a miner available, from anyone, at these price points that could have hit those numbers in that time frame. It's like saying hmm what if I had a 1g/h miner in 2010. It's depressing, but irrelevant, because you couldn't have. I don't care about what could have been or should have been I just want them to ship. I don't feel good about anyone, I'm not defending anyone. I want them to ship yesterday. I just don't feel like gathering with pitchforks in the town square with everyone else. Correction. Anyone that purchased an Antminer S1 from December through February has already ROI'ed My first Antminer in February 12th I paid 1.45 BTC for has made me nearly 1.95 BTC, so half a Bitty profit. Basically we all wasted our dough on the wrong product.
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btcminer84
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May 15, 2014, 04:41:18 PM |
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I want them to ship yesterday.
I want them to refund me today. But blackarrow (The Thread Opener) told me via PM ... we'll ship it to you shortly.
and some hours ago the answer to my refund request was " sell yourself". Here is the proof: 
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btcminer84
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May 15, 2014, 04:54:49 PM |
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... we'll ship it to you shortly.
Did they really say they'd ship shortly in September?? No. They said it tonight (today, this last night). The quote date is today.
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btcminer84
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May 15, 2014, 05:24:46 PM |
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I have a dream: In the future we call Black Arrow just "Black Error"  BTW: This week they wanted to start shipping 
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sorehammer
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May 15, 2014, 05:26:07 PM |
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Your not frustrated 
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btcminer84
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May 15, 2014, 05:30:05 PM |
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Your not frustrated  Yes. thanks to my lawyer. Black Arrow will be frustrated and in the near future they wish to refund me in the past (today) maybe. At this moment I get "NO REFUND"-answers as well as the classic "we will ship asap"-answers (big lie like everytime) or even no answer (when blackarrow is to play dead).
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btcminer84
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May 15, 2014, 06:05:08 PM |
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Several software issues have hold the shipment for few days but we expect to start shipping any day now.
Who cares? I want to get my refund ASAP.
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ChuckBuck
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May 15, 2014, 06:13:23 PM |
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So does this mean bobsag3 is leaving China with an empty suitcase that was supposed to be an X-1 or X-3?
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me2014
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May 15, 2014, 06:15:11 PM |
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yea better compesation or REFUND!!!and ANY DAY?!???! every day is important,any day doesnt mean nothing!!omg,this is disaster..
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tempestb
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May 15, 2014, 06:24:12 PM |
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So does this mean bobsag3 is leaving China with an empty suitcase that was supposed to be an X-1 or X-3?
Only if his ransom is paid...
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1D7JwRnoungL1YQy7sJMsqmA8BHkPcKGDJ We mine as we dream... Alone
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me2014
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May 15, 2014, 06:31:44 PM |
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i think day will stay quiet and when the time comes for shipping they will just ship it with the same compensation(the worst possible) and with some bugs too..but that is not their problem anymore,they shipped it and thats it..new bfl is coming on market!
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whisper
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May 15, 2014, 06:48:55 PM |
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May be there is some problems with hardware, this why they're so quite and no updates. If another delay coming I thing even 100% compensation don't save them...
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tempestb
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May 15, 2014, 07:04:38 PM |
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They've said in their previous updates that the LCD screens are late, there was an inductor problem so they needed to wait a week for those to come in (Which was said last week, so they probably should have shown up by now), that the software for the LCD would take three days to write, and that the web interface wasn't done yet.
So it sounds more like software issues than hardware. Probably assembly is happening but they have to apply the software to the machines and get them working before they ship out. I would hope they are doing some burn-in testing as well which can eat up time. Last thing anyone wants is to the get a broken non-working miner because they rushed through the software and missed some bugs, or some hardware component fails.
But an official update covering everyone's questions would be nice to have.
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1D7JwRnoungL1YQy7sJMsqmA8BHkPcKGDJ We mine as we dream... Alone
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ChuckBuck
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May 15, 2014, 07:27:11 PM |
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They've said in their previous updates that the LCD screens are late, there was an inductor problem so they needed to wait a week for those to come in (Which was said last week, so they probably should have shown up by now), that the software for the LCD would take three days to write, and that the web interface wasn't done yet.
So it sounds more like software issues than hardware. Probably assembly is happening but they have to apply the software to the machines and get them working before they ship out. I would hope they are doing some burn-in testing as well which can eat up time. Last thing anyone wants is to the get a broken non-working miner because they rushed through the software and missed some bugs, or some hardware component fails.
But an official update covering everyone's questions would be nice to have.
That was addressed already: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=294197.msg6718306#msg6718306What else you got?
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tempestb
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May 15, 2014, 07:29:55 PM |
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You mean the part where he says the power leaks are "mostly" fixed and that the website is not done yet? What did I say incorrectly that this covered? What else YOU got? More than half of his answers are "Working on it, more to come, dunno yet..."
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1D7JwRnoungL1YQy7sJMsqmA8BHkPcKGDJ We mine as we dream... Alone
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Pistachio
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May 15, 2014, 07:32:20 PM |
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They've said in their previous updates that the LCD screens are late, there was an inductor problem so they needed to wait a week for those to come in (Which was said last week, so they probably should have shown up by now), that the software for the LCD would take three days to write, and that the web interface wasn't done yet.
So it sounds more like software issues than hardware. Probably assembly is happening but they have to apply the software to the machines and get them working before they ship out. I would hope they are doing some burn-in testing as well which can eat up time. Last thing anyone wants is to the get a broken non-working miner because they rushed through the software and missed some bugs, or some hardware component fails.
But an official update covering everyone's questions would be nice to have.
That was addressed already: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=294197.msg6718306#msg6718306What else you got? Why do you think this was addressed already? Black Arrow has said nothing about what happens to compensation since they missed another deadline. The market price has dropped significantly since they announced the first compensation plan and set their own deadline. The deadline has passed and the market price has dropped. So ....
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ChuckBuck
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May 15, 2014, 07:33:47 PM |
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They've said in their previous updates that the LCD screens are late, there was an inductor problem so they needed to wait a week for those to come in (Which was said last week, so they probably should have shown up by now), that the software for the LCD would take three days to write, and that the web interface wasn't done yet.
So it sounds more like software issues than hardware. Probably assembly is happening but they have to apply the software to the machines and get them working before they ship out. I would hope they are doing some burn-in testing as well which can eat up time. Last thing anyone wants is to the get a broken non-working miner because they rushed through the software and missed some bugs, or some hardware component fails.
But an official update covering everyone's questions would be nice to have.
That was addressed already: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=294197.msg6718306#msg6718306What else you got? What do you this was addressed already? Black Arrow has said nothing about what happens to compensation since they missed another deadline. The market price has dropped significantly since they announced the first compensation plan and set their own deadline. The deadline has passed and the market price has dropped. So .... Was being facetious Pistachio, we on the same team. Team misery. Was quoting more for lack of real, substantial updates.
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Pistachio
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May 15, 2014, 07:34:30 PM |
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They've said in their previous updates that the LCD screens are late, there was an inductor problem so they needed to wait a week for those to come in (Which was said last week, so they probably should have shown up by now), that the software for the LCD would take three days to write, and that the web interface wasn't done yet.
So it sounds more like software issues than hardware. Probably assembly is happening but they have to apply the software to the machines and get them working before they ship out. I would hope they are doing some burn-in testing as well which can eat up time. Last thing anyone wants is to the get a broken non-working miner because they rushed through the software and missed some bugs, or some hardware component fails.
But an official update covering everyone's questions would be nice to have.
That was addressed already: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=294197.msg6718306#msg6718306What else you got? What do you this was addressed already? Black Arrow has said nothing about what happens to compensation since they missed another deadline. The market price has dropped significantly since they announced the first compensation plan and set their own deadline. The deadline has passed and the market price has dropped. So .... Was being facetious Pistachio, we on the same team. Team misery. Was quoting more for lack of real, substantial updates. I see, never mind.
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me2014
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May 15, 2014, 07:43:47 PM |
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Really need an update BA, we know you are reading this. Give us an update on shipping and compensation, that is what we REALLY want.
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