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October 15, 2024, 06:00:13 PM
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Africans hate their fellow Africans. No spirit of sportsmanship in them. For every little misunderstanding between them, they take it to heart to retaliate with such much hate therein within them. That's why progress and unity don't easily come among them. You can imagine the little misunderstanding that triggered Libya to treat Nigeria this way. By the way, what will the Nigerian government do? It's better that the matter is handed over to CAF, let them settle the dispute, and charge both parties for the acts of misconduct and lack of professionalism
North Africans see themselves as more Arabs than Africans. We all saw what played out when Morocco qualified for the semifinals in the last World Cup in Qatar. Sofiane Boufal one of Atlas Loins player dedicated their success to Moroccans, Arab and Muslim people. He failed to recognize the African solidarity and support they got from the continent.


https://dailypost.ng/2024/10/14/afcon-2025-qualifier-caf-forcing-super-eagles-to-play-against-libya-sports-minister/

The Nigerian minister of sports said that he spoke with CAF president Patrice Motsepe and Secretary-General Mosengo Omba, and they insisted that the Super Eagles will have to play the match. If Nigeria is boycotting the match without the permission of the CAF, they might end up losing three points.

We are expecting to get CAF's position on this matter. And if the organization is fair, a rematch should be the least the Super Eagles should receive because, ideally, they deserve to get the three points.
You are pretty correct about North Africa seeing themselves as Arab rather than how they visualize themselves as Africans. They segregate themselves as Africans but prefer to call themselves Arab because their beliefs and way of reasoning are not the same as ours(blacks) when it comes to leadership and way of living.

However, I see this act of display by Libya as a payback for what they faced when they came to Nigeria. A Tunisia pilot has revealed how he was ordered by one of the top Libyan officials to change the Super Eagles flight route.
Link: https://www.gistlover.com/tunisian-pilot-reveals-how-one-of-top-libyan-officials-ordered-to-change-super-eagles-flight-route/?fbclid=IwY2xjawF7BeZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHfnQQv7d-rPKW3IgxfUNSeUiHtqbAGgkTY_vvokYnVTZj3LDodrYPPcdAA_aem_Hv2q2lKeddvP2LwtqIhwAQ

As it very is, CAF shouldn't talk about a rematch or whose county owns the 3 points, until when the matter has been addressed. Already, the Libya FA are talking about taking the NFF to court because of how they were first treated in Nigeria.
Link to the very video of how they were treated: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBHgxDyMJYM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

This whole scenario becoming intense as Nigeria's are sending a strong message to CAF, about how the Super Eagles were treated in Libya, leaving them stranded with food and water for 13 hours
I completely do not agreed with this. The first arrangement was made and the decision between Nigeria and Libya was that Libya was supposed to land at UYO airport because that was where arrangement was made for them. But the pilot landed at Port Harcourt Airport. This made plans to change completely. Amidst NFF provided another plane which will take them directly to UYO from Port Harcourt but the Libya people refused. Then a well conducive bus was provided for them from Port Harcourt to take them to UYO with an escort.

You see there was security and other escort provided for them after the changes. But what the Libya did in return was intentional. The bus they provided was not secured and protected. They meant to payback.

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October 15, 2024, 06:50:28 PM
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As it was speculated that the super eagles were not allowed to book their flights back to Nigeria and were held against their will until there is confirmation of what will be the faith of the match tomorrow, the super eagle media person posted on X just 2 hours ago that they have been allowed to fly back to Nigeria, which they are already ready to depart, which can only mean that their decision not to continue the match tomorrow stands. We wish them safe landing in their father's land.
 
https://x.com/OgaNlaMedia/status/1845800126293434444
This has been existing in the past and it’s usually North African countries that are guilty of this. I think CAF turns a blind eye to these issues that’s why it is still happening. CAF do not abide by its own rules and regulations. This preferential treatment from CAF like this one is the reason why African football is not growing and puts a dent on the integrity of African football. The Super Eagles should be reimbursed for the expenses they made during their trip to Libya.

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October 15, 2024, 07:14:36 PM
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As it was speculated that the super eagles were not allowed to book their flights back to Nigeria and were held against their will until there is confirmation of what will be the faith of the match tomorrow, the super eagle media person posted on X just 2 hours ago that they have been allowed to fly back to Nigeria, which they are already ready to depart, which can only mean that their decision not to continue the match tomorrow stands. We wish them safe landing in their father's land.
 
https://x.com/OgaNlaMedia/status/1845800126293434444
This has been existing in the past and it’s usually North African countries that are guilty of this. I think CAF turns a blind eye to these issues that’s why it is still happening. CAF do not abide by its own rules and regulations. This preferential treatment from CAF like this one is the reason why African football is not growing and puts a dent on the integrity of African football. The Super Eagles should be reimbursed for the expenses they made during their trip to Libya.

Well spoken mate because if CAF has not been biased and compromised then this act by Lybia deserves some purnishment or sanctions. I just hope they revisit this matter because the ill treatment that the super eagles went through at Lybia is a dent to Nigeria at large and not only about the Super eagles alone. Since the match has now been postponed, CAF should make sure that everything are set in place before the day the match will be rescheduled and such thing should not repeat to any other African country again in the future.
        Asking for reimbursement for the expenses of the Super Eagles should be done by Lybian government because the humiliation is much. If Lybia experienced some kind of ill treatment upon their arrival to Nigeria in the first leg why not they channel their complaints to CAF instead of taking a retaliatory step, it's so unprofessional of the Lybian government.

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October 15, 2024, 07:25:18 PM
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As it was speculated that the super eagles were not allowed to book their flights back to Nigeria and were held against their will until there is confirmation of what will be the faith of the match tomorrow, the super eagle media person posted on X just 2 hours ago that they have been allowed to fly back to Nigeria, which they are already ready to depart, which can only mean that their decision not to continue the match tomorrow stands. We wish them safe landing in their father's land.
 
https://x.com/OgaNlaMedia/status/1845800126293434444
This has been existing in the past and it’s usually North African countries that are guilty of this. I think CAF turns a blind eye to these issues that’s why it is still happening. CAF do not abide by its own rules and regulations. This preferential treatment from CAF like this one is the reason why African football is not growing and puts a dent on the integrity of African football. The Super Eagles should be reimbursed for the expenses they made during their trip to Libya.
African football will never grow with this kind of situation that keeps happening. CAF don't know what they are doing. If they can't take drastic action and put an end to these kind of things, others will still do the same next time. Libya should take the 3 points for all I care. If CAF cannot provide a conducive environment for people to play football there is no need of playing. Even if the match should go on the super eagles players won't concentrate anymore as their minds won't be on the game. With this kind of things happening will anyone still blame African players who choose to play for European countries? When the football governing body in the continent can't even stand firm with their rules and punish offenders. I wish the super eagles safe flight home.

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October 15, 2024, 07:36:24 PM
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As it was speculated that the super eagles were not allowed to book their flights back to Nigeria and were held against their will until there is confirmation of what will be the faith of the match tomorrow, the super eagle media person posted on X just 2 hours ago that they have been allowed to fly back to Nigeria, which they are already ready to depart, which can only mean that their decision not to continue the match tomorrow stands. We wish them safe landing in their father's land.
 
https://x.com/OgaNlaMedia/status/1845800126293434444
This is actually unprofessional, and the worst decision a country like Libya could do to it's sister nation such as Nigeria, because in situations like this, I expected the organizers of AFCON to have come to an aid by calling the president of Libya to resolve all issues before it got to the media amicably, but it's obvious they decided to keep mute, and allow it longer this level, because if the Super Eagles come back tomorrow without playing this game, it will really mean a big slap to the Nigerian Football Federation, and it's organizers AFCON at large.
Even Nigeria too has lost his respect by having bad leaders. When a country has a bad leader this is what happens. Libya know that Nigeria would not do anything and that was why they did it. Bad leaders and fail continent. CAF should have alternative ways to remedy such situation in next time.
As for me it is not a big slap to Nigeria and this what you get when you don't respect yourself, APC government has reduced Nigeria to be disrespected to this level. We should wait to see what will happen in this case whether they will reschedule to play in another country or in Libya again but some of the Nigerian players said they will not participating anything with Libya again. CAF should resolve this issue fast.

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October 15, 2024, 08:03:15 PM
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As it was speculated that the super eagles were not allowed to book their flights back to Nigeria and were held against their will until there is confirmation of what will be the faith of the match tomorrow, the super eagle media person posted on X just 2 hours ago that they have been allowed to fly back to Nigeria, which they are already ready to depart, which can only mean that their decision not to continue the match tomorrow stands. We wish them safe landing in their father's land.
 
https://x.com/OgaNlaMedia/status/1845800126293434444
This is actually unprofessional, and the worst decision a country like Libya could do to it's sister nation such as Nigeria, because in situations like this, I expected the organizers of AFCON to have come to an aid by calling the president of Libya to resolve all issues before it got to the media amicably, but it's obvious they decided to keep mute, and allow it longer this level, because if the Super Eagles come back tomorrow without playing this game, it will really mean a big slap to the Nigerian Football Federation, and it's organizers AFCON at large.
Even Nigeria too has lost his respect by having bad leaders. When a country has a bad leader this is what happens. Libya know that Nigeria would not do anything and that was why they did it. Bad leaders and fail continent. CAF should have alternative ways to remedy such situation in next time.
As for me it is not a big slap to Nigeria and this what you get when you don't respect yourself, APC government has reduced Nigeria to be disrespected to this level. We should wait to see what will happen in this case whether they will reschedule to play in another country or in Libya again but some of the Nigerian players said they will not participating anything with Libya again. CAF should resolve this issue fast.
I expected a statement from the Presidency concerning the issue. In as much as I dislike the government, it is the responsibility of CAF to ensure that Libya are punished for risking the lives of the Nigerian players. 





The withdrawal of the Super Eagles from the game with Libya today is justified and I support the decision to boycott the game. Libya wanted to frustrate the Super Eagles in order to get a walk over in the game but their plans have failed. The game has been postponed indefinitely.

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As it was speculated that the super eagles were not allowed to book their flights back to Nigeria and were held against their will until there is confirmation of what will be the faith of the match tomorrow, the super eagle media person posted on X just 2 hours ago that they have been allowed to fly back to Nigeria, which they are already ready to depart, which can only mean that their decision not to continue the match tomorrow stands. We wish them safe landing in their father's land.
 
https://x.com/OgaNlaMedia/status/1845800126293434444
This has been existing in the past and it’s usually North African countries that are guilty of this. I think CAF turns a blind eye to these issues that’s why it is still happening. CAF do not abide by its own rules and regulations. This preferential treatment from CAF like this one is the reason why African football is not growing and puts a dent on the integrity of African football. The Super Eagles should be reimbursed for the expenses they made during their trip to Libya.
African football will never grow with this kind of situation that keeps happening. CAF don't know what they are doing. If they can't take drastic action and put an end to these kind of things, others will still do the same next time. Libya should take the 3 points for all I care. If CAF cannot provide a conducive environment for people to play football there is no need of playing. Even if the match should go on the super eagles players won't concentrate anymore as their minds won't be on the game. With this kind of things happening will anyone still blame African players who choose to play for European countries? When the football governing body in the continent can't even stand firm with their rules and punish offenders. I wish the super eagles safe flight home.

In fact, these are not isolated cases and we are used to their recurrence periodically in all countries of the continent. The closest clear example of this was the last African Cup of Nations in Cameroon and all the poor organization and mismanagement it witnessed. Therefore, African football faces major challenges due to the unstable political, social and economic situations in many countries. These challenges are manifested in the spread of administrative corruption, violence in stadiums, lack of investment, and the migration of talent. These factors combined lead to a decline in the level of national teams and clubs, the decline of the game's popularity, and the deterioration of the sports economy. To solve these crises, corruption must be combated, sports infrastructure developed, cadres trained, international cooperation enhanced, and the public educated about the importance of clean sport. I know this is so far to be true but there is no other strategy to maintain an honorable compitition.

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The withdrawal of the Super Eagles from the game with Libya today is justified and I support the decision to boycott the game. Libya wanted to frustrate the Super Eagles in order to get a walk over in the game but their plans have failed. The game has been postponed indefinitely.
See eh, a country that is like Libya can never win any tournament in football. It is simply impossible because one they have the worst hospitality service to their opponents. Can you imagine that they did the same thing to Cameroon some time ago? Tell me how this team can amount to anything. If CAF ends up not sanctioning them, it only sends a message to the whole Africa that CAF approves of their behavior.

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The withdrawal of the Super Eagles from the game with Libya today is justified and I support the decision to boycott the game. Libya wanted to frustrate the Super Eagles in order to get a walk over in the game but their plans have failed. The game has been postponed indefinitely.
See eh, a country that is like Libya can never win any tournament in football. It is simply impossible because one they have the worst hospitality service to their opponents. Can you imagine that they did the same thing to Cameroon some time ago? Tell me how this team can amount to anything. If CAF ends up not sanctioning them, it only sends a message to the whole Africa that CAF approves of their behavior.
Libya deserves a stiff punishment for their bad character towards their visitors. CAF will be tested in regards to how they handle this case.
Libya are trying to push the narrative that the maltreatment was revenge for how the NFF treated them when they came to play the first leg in Uyo. It's laughable because Nigeria is the stronger team and do not need to resort to such antics to destabilize her opponens.  

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Is been long I heard this kind of news, this is a very ugly experience for the Super eagle team during their visit to Libya for their proposed match today, the giant of Africa for that matter, other countries are really taking this country for granted,  the way Nigeria treats their players sometimes is why other countries don't value Nigeria players and can do anything and get away with it, this case requires a proper sanction on Libya by the CAF Board.

 
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Is been long I heard this kind of news, this is a very ugly experience for the Super eagle team during their visit to Libya for their proposed match today, the giant of Africa for that matter, other countries are really taking this country for granted,  the way Nigeria treats their players sometimes is why other countries don't value Nigeria players and can do anything and get away with it, this case requires a proper sanction on Libya by the CAF Board.ons
I totally blame CAF for this whole misunderstanding,  they are the one that is responsible to have fix anything concerning logistic for this matches, once the and coaching crew and players arrive their destination, CAF is supposed to take it up from there. I heard they've delisted the Nigerian Vs Libya game on their catalog, my question is how are they now going share points for that game or they are going to give the entire super Eagles the 3 points considering their maltreatment from the host team.











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October 15, 2024, 10:24:59 PM
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Is been long I heard this kind of news, this is a very ugly experience for the Super eagle team during their visit to Libya for their proposed match today, the giant of Africa for that matter, other countries are really taking this country for granted,  the way Nigeria treats their players sometimes is why other countries don't value Nigeria players and can do anything and get away with it, this case requires a proper sanction on Libya by the CAF Board.ons
I totally blame CAF for this whole misunderstanding,  they are the one that is responsible to have fix anything concerning logistic for this matches, once they players arrive their destination, CAF is supposed to take it up from there. I heard they've delisted the Nigerian Vs Libya game on their catalog, my question is how are they now go share points for that or they are going to give the entire super Eagles the 3 points considering their my maltreatment from the host team.
Why blame CAF? We can all blame them for other reasons but the issue with Libya who knows if they’re involved because after reading I didn’t see anywhere the CAF where at fault rather Libya lacks the ability to host any team neither coordinate a football invent, probably they’re showing the dark side for a reason. Canceling the match is no guarantee we’re getting the point since I have not seen that but it’ll be better they reschedule another match seeing how the super eagles are angry concerning the whole situation.

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October 15, 2024, 10:35:11 PM
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Itbeen long I heard this kind of news, This is a very ugly experience for the Super eagle team during their visit to Libya for their proposed match today, the giant of Africa for that matter, Other countries are really taking this country for granted, The way Nigeria treats their players sometimes is why other countries don't value Nigerian players and can do anything and get away with it, This case requires a proper sanction on Libya by the CAF Board.
While we wait to hear the results of the CAF investigation and what it might be, our brothers, the Ghanaians, are being ridiculed by their supporters and receiving backlash because they lost to Sudan today once more by two goals after drawing the first game. In their last four games, Ghana has not triumphed, only picking up a draw twice in those games, and that is unlike the records that a team like Ghana should be getting.

The Black Stars are third in their group, behind Egypt. Ghana and Egypt should be topping this group B.

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October 15, 2024, 11:34:11 PM
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While we wait to hear the results of the CAF investigation and what it might be

This investigation will not do any good. We are in Africa and here corrupt governments can bribe whatever they want. At the Libyan airport, for example, the Libyan government can instruct airport officials to say that everything went well and that there were only a few small, unintentional mistakes that resulted in the misunderstanding with the Nigerian delegation. The CAF will close the investigations and will not punish Libya, but will reschedule the game for another date. Similar cases have happened a lot in Africa and the CAF does not punish anyone.

our brothers, the Ghanaians, are being ridiculed by their supporters and receiving backlash because they lost to Sudan today once more by two goals after drawing the first game. In their last four games, Ghana has not triumphed, only picking up a draw twice in those games, and that is unlike the records that a team like Ghana should be getting.

The Black Stars are third in their group, behind Egypt. Ghana and Egypt should be topping this group B.



4 games and only 1 goal scored. Ghana's situation is very bad

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October 16, 2024, 09:39:11 AM
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Libya deserves a stiff punishment for their bad character towards their visitors. CAF will be tested in regards to how they handle this case.
Libya are trying to push the narrative that the maltreatment was revenge for how the NFF treated them when they came to play the first leg in Uyo. It's laughable because Nigeria is the stronger team and do not need to resort to such antics to destabilize her opponens.  

It is laughable for them to say that its a revenge, as I have said earlier if they felt maltreated when the came to Nigeria I think the best to do is to report it to the institution that is assigned to handle such matters, libyan officials attributing their barbaric and inhumane act to retaliation to how Nigeria treated them when they visited is a joke of the century, Libya act shows that they arent ready to extend a hand of friendship and If they go unpunished, we never can tell the country that will be their next victims of their action, this matter shouldnt be taken for granted because football is a friendly event as such it shouldn't be taken this far, I believe there are strict laws guilding the game of soccer, let's watch and see how CAF will handle this situation, as you have said already, all eyes on CAF, they manner they treat this issue will determine how reliable people see them in matters like this, for such event to be postponed on the ground of libyan officials misplaced priority, i believe there should stringent sanction against them and it should be done in line with the strict footballs rules.

 
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October 16, 2024, 10:25:48 AM
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The withdrawal of the Super Eagles from the game with Libya today is justified and I support the decision to boycott the game. Libya wanted to frustrate the Super Eagles in order to get a walk over in the game but their plans have failed. The game has been postponed indefinitely.
See eh, a country that is like Libya can never win any tournament in football. It is simply impossible because one they have the worst hospitality service to their opponents. Can you imagine that they did the same thing to Cameroon some time ago? Tell me how this team can amount to anything. If CAF ends up not sanctioning them, it only sends a message to the whole Africa that CAF approves of their behavior.

Not trynna be sentimental. But if they Libya knowing they doesn’t have the required amenities to participate in the tournament shouldn’t be looking for something to blame for their poor hospitality. Because if they saying Nigeria didn’t treat them well and want to take revenge. What about Cameroon that was a victim of similar incidents in the past?
I don’t think this was an international thing from the NNF. Just a misunderstanding due to inappropriate arrangements. And they’re taking it person.
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October 16, 2024, 10:43:02 AM
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This investigation will not do any good. We are in Africa and here corrupt governments can bribe whatever they want.

Yeah bribe can be very common in all the African government but I believe this case will be a different one because had it been that it was just a case of two or four hours stranded on their airport it would have been very understandable to everyone but in this case they were held till the next morning without even occurring to them that the super eagles will need to have enough rest before they will have the strength to play the match the next day.

So I don't think it will work even if their government wants to bribe their way out because in as much as corruptions are everywhere but in football their are good level of discipline and less corruption because already everybody is fully aware of the whole situation so they will investigate properly with a fair judgement, however if they find the Libyan team guilty they may even decide to give the super eagles their 3 points as a punishment to the Libya.

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October 16, 2024, 12:40:21 PM
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While we wait to hear the results of the CAF investigation and what it might be

This investigation will not do any good. We are in Africa and here corrupt governments can bribe whatever they want. At the Libyan airport, for example, the Libyan government can instruct airport officials to say that everything went well and that there were only a few small, unintentional mistakes that resulted in the misunderstanding with the Nigerian delegation. The CAF will close the investigations and will not punish Libya, but will reschedule the game for another date. Similar cases have happened a lot in Africa and the CAF does not punish anyone.

our brothers, the Ghanaians, are being ridiculed by their supporters and receiving backlash because they lost to Sudan today once more by two goals after drawing the first game. In their last four games, Ghana has not triumphed, only picking up a draw twice in those games, and that is unlike the records that a team like Ghana should be getting.

The Black Stars are third in their group, behind Egypt. Ghana and Egypt should be topping this group B.

I disagree with you, the investigation will do a whole lot of unraveling, the evidence against the Libyan side is overwhelming, don't forget that they instructed the pilot to land somewhere difference, a place that had 2 hours distance, instead Benghazi where the matches is supposed to take place. I've seen a video where the pilot was explaining his own side of the story of what happened.
If you talk about the fact that nothing is going to happen, I don't think it will be for this case, the attention and the possible confusion this matter has brought cannot be left unchecked, the Libya vs Nigeria game has been delisted from CAF catalog of games, who is going to pay for that, how are they going to share the points between the both teams since there was no return leg, trust me a lot will be opened after the investigation and we are keenly waiting for CAF final decision.

As for the black stars of Ghana, it's looking like they might not qualify for the next phase given this horrible performance, looking at the table, it goes to tell you football is really taking a different dimension this time.












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October 16, 2024, 04:07:22 PM
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I disagree with you, the investigation will do a whole lot of unraveling, the evidence against the Libyan side is overwhelming, don't forget that they instructed the pilot to land somewhere difference, a place that had 2 hours distance, instead Benghazi where the matches is supposed to take place. I've seen a video where the pilot was explaining his own side of the story of what happened.
If you talk about the fact that nothing is going to happen, I don't think it will be for this case, the attention and the possible confusion this matter has brought cannot be left unchecked, the Libya vs Nigeria game has been delisted from CAF catalog of games, who is going to pay for that, how are they going to share the points between the both teams since there was no return leg, trust me a lot will be opened after the investigation and we are keenly waiting for CAF final decision.

The right thing to do in situation like this is to conduct an investigation before a rematch and that's if the alleged poor treatment by the super eagles are false. But of course, that's no the case, the evidence is overwhelming and it was indeed a deliberate and intentional act by the Libyans to weaken the morale of the super eagles. I also watched the pilot's account of the story, and I'd say these guys are heartless for diverting the plane to an abandoned airport with no air safety system in place like navigation approach and instrument landing system to assist the pilot in landing safely. This is indeed the height of wickedness that they didn't even consider the lives and safety of the passengers onboard.

There's no way this would happen in other parts of the world like europe and the accused nation would walk scot free. If a rematch is what CAF is saying right now, then its really disheartening to hear and I'll not expect any meaningful outcome from the investigation.

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October 16, 2024, 07:54:54 PM
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About the AFCON 2025 in Morocco, CAF  has decided that following the Nigerian National Football Team ordeal in Libya, the match will be played in Angola.

CAF sanctions Libya $10M for damages.

Ban Libya from playing any home games in Libya until 2026.

Lastly, they promised to Ban Libya from all football activities for two years if such incident repeats itself in the future.

Whats your take on CAF's decision?

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