Elon Musk vs Donald Trump

[Danica22]

The easiest thing for Musk to do would be to simply leave politics. Forget about it once and for all. It's definitely not his thing. He's a businessman. So let him do his own projects and not run the country. Many have already realized that it's not his place and that he doesn't belong in the White House. In a short period of time, he's managed to do things that have left many people in a state of shock. This was especially evident when he started giving the Nazi salute. Is that acceptable for such a person? The question is rhetorical.

He does not need to stay away from politics completely because the wealth and future of billionaires like him cannot be sustained without political support or backing. There has always been a close relationship between wealth and power.
As far as I know, the Tesla and SpaceX projects are getting a lot of favor from the US government and that is part of the deal between you and Trump. So, Elon leaving politics is impossible.

What he needs to do is not to interfere too deeply in politics, only intervene when necessary and spend more time on his career and scientific research.

[Taskford]

The easiest thing for Musk to do would be to simply leave politics. Forget about it once and for all. It's definitely not his thing. He's a businessman. So let him do his own projects and not run the country. Many have already realized that it's not his place and that he doesn't belong in the White House. In a short period of time, he's managed to do things that have left many people in a state of shock. This was especially evident when he started giving the Nazi salute. Is that acceptable for such a person? The question is rhetorical.

He does not need to stay away from politics completely because the wealth and future of billionaires like him cannot be sustained without political support or backing. There has always been a close relationship between wealth and power.
As far as I know, the Tesla and SpaceX projects are getting a lot of favor from the US government and that is part of the deal between you and Trump. So, Elon leaving politics is impossible.

What he needs to do is not to interfere too deeply in politics, only intervene when necessary and spend more time on his career and scientific research.

I guess what's best thing he could do is not to expose his self to much on politics just like what they did these days. Because same like what happen they might just get a problem if he get involve to much on any political issues.

Look at Bill Gates and other Billionaire's out there they are been so silent on their political views and just drop their support silently on those politicians they think good for their nation also for their business empires. Tesla getting a lot of favor before, but now since they got an issue with Trump it seems that SpaceX is in trouble and Musk will badly get affected if there's something bad happen on his project due to political conflicts.

[shield132]

The easiest thing for Musk to do would be to simply leave politics. Forget about it once and for all. It's definitely not his thing. He's a businessman. So let him do his own projects and not run the country. Many have already realized that it's not his place and that he doesn't belong in the White House. In a short period of time, he's managed to do things that have left many people in a state of shock. This was especially evident when he started giving the Nazi salute. Is that acceptable for such a person? The question is rhetorical.

He is a businessman, that's why he is into politics. You won't see a real politician in politics these days because capitalism ruined everything. Everyone tries to come into governance not because they are patriots but because they want more money and power. Elon Musk supported Trump and spent up to a 300 million for Trump's promotion but I'm sure he did it because he was expecting to earn way more after Trump's win because Trump would possibly offer him some tax cut rates for his company or any other opportunities and more open doors for him. That $300 million donation was investment for Elon Musk but as it seems, things have changed.

Btw recently Elon Musk wrote on X that he regrets some of his posts about Donald Trump and admits that he went too far. The USA and the hollywood are too good into movies, we are seeing a live-action without frame stop.

[fuguebtc]

Tesla getting a lot of favor before, but now since they got an issue with Trump it seems that SpaceX is in trouble and Musk will badly get affected if there's something bad happen on his project due to political conflicts.

Tesla could be in trouble if the conflict between them becomes more tense, because the Trump or Biden administration is not very friendly to the electric vehicle industry, they still prioritize cars using oil and gasoline.


But SpaceX is in a different position, they are an important partner of the US government. It can be said that the US government depends on SpaceX as they have been providing many essential services and products in the space and defense sector since 2005 until now. If Trump disrupts or causes trouble for SpaceX, it is no different than harming the defense of the US.

It can be said that Trump has the upper hand because he is the president after all , but he will not be stupid enough to cause trouble or harm to Elon Musk. Because it is not in his or the US government's interest. We will soon see them getting along again, because that is how politics works .

[passwordnow]

I guess that this is now a done debate for both Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Elon just apologized for what he's said on his tweets against Trump. We might see a reconciliation after this. It's said that Musk called Trump before he said his sorry to him. So, there was a talk privately and they're probably back to being friends again.

[1] Elon Musk called Donald Trump before expressing 'regret' for harsh attacks

[laijsica]

I guess that this is now a done debate for both Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Elon just apologized for what he's said on his tweets against Trump. We might see a reconciliation after this. It's said that Musk called Trump before he said his sorry to him. So, there was a talk privately and they're probably back to being friends again.

[1] Elon Musk called Donald Trump before expressing 'regret' for harsh attacks

For now, the feud and debate between the two seems to have ended. Elon Musk has regretted his negative comments about Trump. There were two issues between them, including the financial spending bill and the Tax policy. At one stage of the dispute, Elon Musk resigned from the Trump administration and criticized one after another, calling the budget bill disgusting. He tweeted about Trump hidden involvement in the sex scandal, but later retracted his comments.

The latest dispute between Musk and Trump is about to end and it seems that Musk has shown solidarity with Trump policy on the issue of federal immigration in Los Angeles.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/11/business/musk-regrets-some-posts-about-trump-intl

[Danica22]

I guess what's best thing he could do is not to expose his self to much on politics just like what they did these days. Because same like what happen they might just get a problem if he get involve to much on any political issues.

Look at Bill Gates and other Billionaire's out there they are been so silent on their political views and just drop their support silently on those politicians they think good for their nation also for their business empires. Tesla getting a lot of favor before, but now since they got an issue with Trump it seems that SpaceX is in trouble and Musk will badly get affected if there's something bad happen on his project due to political conflicts.

It can be seen that Elon's political ambition is very big, not as simple as other billionaires who only maintain relationships with politicians to serve their business. Elon wants more than that and anyone who has followed the relationship between Trump and Elon since Trump was elected will notice that. But perhaps he learned a valuable lesson from the recent incident.

Multiple reports said Elon was the first to admit his mistake and Trump also expressed openness and willingness to mend the relationship. So I think his business will be fine. Tesla stock has recovered and increased significantly today and yesterday.

[bubilas]

"I have no hard feelings. I was very surprised that it happened. I think he feels very bad about what he said," Trump on Musk

Here we have seen the end of this whole theater, which was obvious in advance, that this whole quarrel is not real and simply Trump and Elon Musk decided to make money on the fall of Tesla shares by buying them cheaper and perhaps they bought cryptocurrencies cheaper at the moment when Bitcoin fell to 100,000 from 110,000, and now we see that again the number one cryptocurrency has returned to its previous high values. And so their whole scheme worked out, however, no one could say for sure whether this was a real conflict or not, and therefore, I think very few of the ordinary traders and shareholders were able to make money.

[Mame89]

The easiest thing for Musk to do would be to simply leave politics. Forget about it once and for all. It's definitely not his thing. He's a businessman. So let him do his own projects and not run the country. Many have already realized that it's not his place and that he doesn't belong in the White House. In a short period of time, he's managed to do things that have left many people in a state of shock. This was especially evident when he started giving the Nazi salute. Is that acceptable for such a person? The question is rhetorical.

He does not need to stay away from politics completely because the wealth and future of billionaires like him cannot be sustained without political support or backing. There has always been a close relationship between wealth and power.
As far as I know, the Tesla and SpaceX projects are getting a lot of favor from the US government and that is part of the deal between you and Trump. So, Elon leaving politics is impossible.

What he needs to do is not to interfere too deeply in politics, only intervene when necessary and spend more time on his career and scientific research.

That's right. Entrepreneurs are not far from politics and both cannot be separated because they benefit each other in terms of policy and so on. So of course Elon Musk will not be able to stay away from the world of politics, all big entrepreneurs must be close to power, some play behind the scenes, some appear in front of the screen and Elon now chooses to be in front of the screen. And now it seems impossible for Elon not to interfere in the world of politics because he has become part of global elite politics.

Even the latest news after this quarrel, there are several countries that are at odds with the United States, and at the forefront Russia has offered political asylum to Elon. They said come to Russia and realize your dreams away from the White House. Maybe other countries like China, North Korea, and Iran will offer the same thing. In fact, this conflict will worsen Trump's own power because many of America's enemies are happy with this conflict.

If this conflict does not find a middle ground, of course we need to prepare popcorn. Will Trump end Elon and change him from the richest person in the world to the poorest? Or will Elon be the one to get rid of Trump?

[GiftedMAN]

"I have no hard feelings. I was very surprised that it happened. I think he feels very bad about what he said," Trump on Musk

Here we have seen the end of this whole theater, which was obvious in advance, that this whole quarrel is not real and simply Trump and Elon Musk decided to make money on the fall of Tesla shares by buying them cheaper and perhaps they bought cryptocurrencies cheaper at the moment when Bitcoin fell to 100,000 from 110,000, and now we see that again the number one cryptocurrency has returned to its previous high values. And so their whole scheme worked out, however, no one could say for sure whether this was a real conflict or not, and therefore, I think very few of the ordinary traders and shareholders were able to make money.

Right from the very moment when the whole drama between Elon Musk and Trump started, the whole thing was like a strategy for them to make more money to me because they are having issues with both of them posting it on the same social media that is owned and controlled by one of them don't you think something is off about the quarrel? Right now they have successfully made money off the issues and they have made a lot of people look like fools because they couldn't take the advantage to make money like both of them did. Trump is a business man likewise Elon Musk, they can't stay without each other because they must have had an agreement before the US election of which Elon Musk gave his full support.

[passwordnow]

I guess that this is now a done debate for both Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Elon just apologized for what he's said on his tweets against Trump. We might see a reconciliation after this. It's said that Musk called Trump before he said his sorry to him. So, there was a talk privately and they're probably back to being friends again.

[1] Elon Musk called Donald Trump before expressing 'regret' for harsh attacks

For now, the feud and debate between the two seems to have ended. Elon Musk has regretted his negative comments about Trump. There were two issues between them, including the financial spending bill and the Tax policy. At one stage of the dispute, Elon Musk resigned from the Trump administration and criticized one after another, calling the budget bill disgusting. He tweeted about Trump hidden involvement in the sex scandal, but later retracted his comments.

The latest dispute between Musk and Trump is about to end and it seems that Musk has shown solidarity with Trump policy on the issue of federal immigration in Los Angeles.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/11/business/musk-regrets-some-posts-about-trump-intl

He went too far with that comment of his about Trump's involvement with Eipstein. It makes sense to apologize first since he's the first started it. And so, with all of the harsh comments that he did, he's truly sorry for what he's said. He probably woke up in reality that his companies involvement to the government and the contracts that he's got has a huge factor for that and that's why he has to do the first move.

[fruktik]

He is a businessman, that's why he is into politics. You won't see a real politician in politics these days because capitalism ruined everything. Everyone tries to come into governance not because they are patriots but because they want more money and power. Elon Musk supported Trump and spent up to a 300 million for Trump's promotion but I'm sure he did it because he was expecting to earn way more after Trump's win because Trump would possibly offer him some tax cut rates for his company or any other opportunities and more open doors for him. That $300 million donation was investment for Elon Musk but as it seems, things have changed.

Btw recently Elon Musk wrote on X that he regrets some of his posts about Donald Trump and admits that he went too far. The USA and the hollywood are too good into movies, we are seeing a live-action without frame stop.

Somehow this all reminds me of some terrible scenario, which actually looks more like a staged movie. Well, I don’t believe that people at this level can quarrel like this, when the whole world is watching them. It’s highly likely that this is not just like that. There is a deep meaning and an end goal here that no one will tell about. Maybe I’ve already gone down the path of conspiracy theory, but let me at least give myself some rational explanation for this nightmare that is happening.

[Agbe]

It's really surprising to see two friends now going against each other with the trump administration just in it early days in office this is clash of interest as far as am concerned because I know that musk was one vocal voice that was campaigning and clamouring for trump to be elected president of the united states I think that what is happening is that Donald trump is a politician who has used musk to achieve his aim and musk is angry that what he expected is not what he is  seeing

[zasad@]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1934630653729046872

"If this continues, America goes de facto bankrupt and all tax revenue will go to paying interest on the national debt with nothing left for anything else"

"How did we arrive at a point in this country where 25% of all tax revenue goes to just paying the interest in $37 trillion in govt debt?

Annually:
US govt total reveneue = about $5 trillion
US govt interest on debt = about $1.2 trillion

US govt spending = about $7 trillion"

https://x.com/PeterSchiff/status/1934738331772047584
"We already are bankrupt. It's just a matter of time before it's obvious to our creditors.  Then interest rates will skyrocket to the point that interest on the national debt exceeds total tax revenue. The Fed will unleash run-away inflation in an attempt to prevent that from happening."

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Everyone has known about this for a long time, but why is this topic starting to come up now?

[summonerrk]

It's really surprising to see two friends now going against each other with the trump administration just in it early days in office this is clash of interest as far as am concerned because I know that musk was one vocal voice that was campaigning and clamouring for trump to be elected president of the united states I think that what is happening is that Donald trump is a politician who has used musk to achieve his aim and musk is angry that what he expected is not what he is  seeing

So when a politician like Trump achieves his goal, he thinks he can treat those who helped him come to power this way. Well, that's his choice. Many of those who have achieved high positions often treat with indifference those who were with them in difficult times.
I think everyone has seen an example in their life of how people, receiving huge amounts of money at their disposal (or a position), became indifferent to their relatives and friends. And unfortunately, in such a case, they cannot be influenced, this is life, such are the laws here.

[arabspaceship123]

Trump won he didn't back down. They were friends so they shouldn't have attacked in the media. Fighting on truth social & twitter wasn't what American ppl wanted. The world needs leaders who're making sense they don't want leaders who're fighting.

[Mate2237]

Trump won he didn't back down. They were friends so they shouldn't have attacked in the media. Fighting on truth social & twitter wasn't what American ppl wanted. The world needs leaders who're making sense they don't want leaders who're fighting.

I don't think that trump won in this fight it only shows the kind of person that trump is he is not a man that should not be trusted because as Elon musk was someone who was instrumental to his second term victory as president of the united states the problem here is that Elon musk was not comfortable with some of the policies that the trump administration was taking that was why he voiced our his mind.


If trump was actually reasonable he would have called musk and talked things out not coming to social media space to be fighting each other this is shameful to me as both men where very good friends

[STT]

The concept of the entire US fiscal budget dominated purely on debt costs is not a new idea, I heard it many times mostly by contrarians but its far from obscure its hidden in plain sight for years.
    This scenario was feared and spoken about +20 years ago.  Even decades before that many people, leaders and nations even have complained about the failure to uphold the value and integrity of the dollar is costing the world more then it causes losses here alone.

Some imagine it can go on forever  or presumably don't care because the greatest damage might be ten years from now.  Just like the Greece debt collapse occurred after some of the originators of that failure were already dead.   The trajectory is foreseeable, its not a call by Elon as its already well known.  The only thing is QE has delayed the outcome, much treasury debt is held by pension funds mostly government controlled.

[ruykeri]

The concept of the entire US fiscal budget dominated purely on debt costs is not a new idea, I heard it many times mostly by contrarians but its far from obscure its hidden in plain sight for years.
    This scenario was feared and spoken about +20 years ago.  Even decades before that many people, leaders and nations even have complained about the failure to uphold the value and integrity of the dollar is costing the world more then it causes losses here alone.

Some imagine it can go on forever  or presumably don't care because the greatest damage might be ten years from now.  Just like the Greece debt collapse occurred after some of the originators of that failure were already dead.   The trajectory is foreseeable, its not a call by Elon as its already well known.  The only thing is QE has delayed the outcome, much treasury debt is held by pension funds mostly government controlled.

This has been years in the making. The CBO was warning as far back as the 2000s that increasing interest payments on government debt would come to dominate the federal budget one day if the deficits continued without restraint.
In fact, in 2023, the U.S. paid nearly $1 trillion in interest alone, which is one of the biggest budgetary outlays nearly as much as the entire defense budget.
Greece (2009 to 2015) Austerity and fiscal profligacy led to national default and bailouts.
Argentina (2001, 2018) Sovereign default leading to hyperinflation and IMF rescue packages.
The majority of U.S. Treasury debt held today is held by pension funds, government trusts, and foreign central banks. Rising yields and more borrowing will unleash a debt spiral, unless QE strikes again—at the cost of more inflation and dollar debasement.
QE purchased time, but not the central issue. The path is no longer speculative .it's a mathematically inevitable process unless policy crucially alters.


Source : https://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt
             https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/ARG
             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis
             https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-debt/#interest-cost
             

[hafiztalha]

The concept of the entire US fiscal budget dominated purely on debt costs is not a new idea, I heard it many times mostly by contrarians but its far from obscure its hidden in plain sight for years.
    This scenario was feared and spoken about +20 years ago.  Even decades before that many people, leaders and nations even have complained about the failure to uphold the value and integrity of the dollar is costing the world more then it causes losses here alone.

Some imagine it can go on forever  or presumably don't care because the greatest damage might be ten years from now.  Just like the Greece debt collapse occurred after some of the originators of that failure were already dead.   The trajectory is foreseeable, its not a call by Elon as its already well known.  The only thing is QE has delayed the outcome, much treasury debt is held by pension funds mostly government controlled.

Donald trump and Elon musk are two different personalities and they are doing different things in different fields but they are both rich people and they always try to earn profit from every opportunity. Elon musk helped Donald when there were elections in the America and Woman was stood against Trump but we always saw Donald as a winner when Woman was against him in the election. He lost in the last election but that time Elon musk made billions of dollars made when Donald made president of America and  his companies shares prices went to the top . In the crypto market we saw huge profit by that person.Now Donald trump is looking towards Iran and Israel war and he want to supply missile to Israel.