Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Flying Hellfish]

the only problem now is black arrow shop does not accept credit card & no paypal , this is the most common payment plaform and would like to make a big order
anybody know if they have soon other payment platform please ?

thx you

Don't hold your breath bro.  Most manufacture's don't like shouldering the risk of Paypal freezing their assets.

FTFY. 

Interesting how the rest of the world does business daily without PP freezing their assets.  Interesting how a company like KNC (or resellers like WTCR) can offer and use PP/CC services but no one else can.  Perhaps a direct merchant CC account would bypass PP if they're so damn awful.  If the major manufactures (or resellers) were building and shipping like the rest of the world their would be no issue with using PP or CC.  It's because manufacture's have refused refunds to PP clients on a large scale (I'm looking directly at you BFL) and because of the extremely long pre-order scheme that the majority of manufacture's have that PP have taken notice of the BTC vendors.

[BitCoins06]

unfortunetly im ready to buy the x3 but i need credit card or paypal payment (i have insurance on my credit card..)

[jawnzer]

unfortunetly im ready to buy the x3 but i need credit card or paypal payment (i have insurance on my credit card..)

If you read back further in the thread, they said they had to take paypal off as it doesn't work well with pre orders. They said they were looking into bringing in something though.

[btc_uzr]

if they are confident in their own announcements they should offer an escrow service with strict terms in regards of GH/s, W per GH, point in time of delivery

they would become the trustworthiest bitcoin ASIC company in the world over night
it would boost sales to the sky as well - whether everything is as promised or you get your money back

and with money hold in escrow it shouldn't be a problem to get a credit somewhere to pay for the production

[bobsag3]

if they are confident in their own announcements they should offer an escrow service with strict terms in regards of GH/s, W per GH, point in time of delivery

they would become the trustworthiest bitcoin ASIC company in the world over night
it would boost sales to the sky as well - whether everything is as promised or you get your money back

and with money hold in escrow it shouldn't be a problem to get a credit somewhere to pay for the production

Nope.

Both them and I have been trying to get a CC processor, seeing as my business paypal was already shut down by paypal for BTC related things. All the CC processors I have talked to either wont do business with this, or want 3+ years of bank statements, along with a 500k deposit.

[bitcoinlord]

Nope.

Both them and I have been trying to get a CC processor, seeing as my business paypal was already shut down by paypal for BTC related things. All the CC processors I have talked to either wont do business with this, or want 3+ years of bank statements, along with a 500k deposit.

Did you try "adult" related Merchant account provider?

[bobsag3]

Nope.

Both them and I have been trying to get a CC processor, seeing as my business paypal was already shut down by paypal for BTC related things. All the CC processors I have talked to either wont do business with this, or want 3+ years of bank statements, along with a 500k deposit.

Did you try "adult" related Merchant account provider?

Yup.
They all either never respond, or say my business is too high risk. I cant even get a processor for the hosting side of the business... and thats a standard colocation.

[bitcoinlord]

Nope.

Both them and I have been trying to get a CC processor, seeing as my business paypal was already shut down by paypal for BTC related things. All the CC processors I have talked to either wont do business with this, or want 3+ years of bank statements, along with a 500k deposit.

Did you try "adult" related Merchant account provider?

Yup.
They all either never respond, or say my business is too high risk. I cant even get a processor for the hosting side of the business... and thats a standard colocation.

Please PM me for Skype chat. I run large colocation/hosting services - no issues for more than 10 years.

[bobsag3]

Nope.

Both them and I have been trying to get a CC processor, seeing as my business paypal was already shut down by paypal for BTC related things. All the CC processors I have talked to either wont do business with this, or want 3+ years of bank statements, along with a 500k deposit.

Did you try "adult" related Merchant account provider?

Yup.
They all either never respond, or say my business is too high risk. I cant even get a processor for the hosting side of the business... and thats a standard colocation.

Please PM me for Skype chat. I run large colocation/hosting services - no issues for more than 10 years.

Its not the services that are the problem- Its has BTC associated with with = no processor.

Whats weird is the company who wants to work with me the most is UPS- I now have 2 account reps based on my out going volume.

[kano]

For anyone who has a V1 BlackArrow Bitfury board - the latest cgminer 3.8.1 (3.8.0 also) has the RPi source for a driver now - consider it an early release since there are certain improvements I'll make to it that I've already sorted out what to do - in future versions - but it already runs with great performance.

The configure option is --enable-bab

It runs at 39.9GH/s valid shares with a bit under 10% HW errors above the 39.9GH/s on a standard board
i.e. if you were to also count bad nonces returned (which I prefer not to but I will mention in case anyone wishes to compare that number) it's returning 44GH/s of good+bad nonces.

I've run it with a single board on Raspbian to write and test it - it's based on the V1 initialisation of a single board.
I based the I/O code on the chainminer GPIO/SPI code as should be obvious for anyone who looks at my driver-bab.c and chainminer (as I also mention that at the top of driver-bab.c)

It's a bit CPU hungry so soon I'll be spending more effort on reducing that - 20% CPU with a single board - I've only tested with a single board.

It also doesn't tune the chip at all - so there is also assured performance improvement there - it runs at default settings at the moment.
That's the next effort I'll expend on the driver.

If anyone has a standard V1 BitFury board I'd also be curious to know if it works with them.

[mvidetto]

Anyone know how legit they are about making their delivery by February?  It sounds like a difficult job seeing as its only 3 months from now.

[Xialla]

blackarrow is real. at least, they sent me few lancelots in May 2013.) otherwise, I told to myself, that I will never preorder anything (after Avalon chips, BFL, Hashfast, TerraHash...) - if you want profit, much better way is just holding bitcoins. simple.

they offering unlimited batch so:

1: they deliver in time, but because we don't know how many orders they already have, diff grow so fast, that nobody will get positive ROI (like KNC)
2: they deliver with delay - you mine something back, but not full investment in BTC
3: they will not deliver, because...lalal lala lal

there is no win for me as a customer in this stupid preorder unlimited model, sorry.

[BitCoins06]

to the Black Arrow Team

could you please try to get in contact with escrow service please ?

thx would be more simple then

we are ready to buy 2 X3

thx you

[blackarrow]

For anyone who has a V1 BlackArrow Bitfury board

Thanks for this Kano.

May I ask how is this related to our 28nm ASIC?

[blackarrow]

to the Black Arrow Team

could you please try to get in contact with escrow service please ?

thx would be more simple then

we are ready to buy 2 X3

What escrow service would you suggest?

[BitCoins06]

i find this but there is some bad review

https://www.escrow.com/

then also

http://transpact.com/ (good review)
registered in uk
https://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/psdFirmNamesCurr.do?sid=264709

[bobsag3]

i find this but there is some bad review

https://www.escrow.com/

then also

http://transpact.com/ (good review)
registered in uk
https://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/psdFirmNamesCurr.do?sid=264709

What about BTCCrow? Never used it, but heard good things.

[Puppet]

Instead of escrow, why not use multisignature? Its easy to do on blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow

No risk of the escrow party running off with the money, losing his laptop or getting killed in a carcrash. You just need an independent third party to sign, and if all goes well, he doesnt have to do anything.

[GodfatherBond]

Instead of escrow, why not use multisignature? Its easy to do on blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow

No risk of the escrow party running off with the money, losing his laptop or getting killed in a carcrash. You just need an independent third party to sign, and if all goes well, he doesnt have to do anything.

That´s actually nice way to do escrow.

[Minor Miner]

Instead of escrow, why not use multisignature? Its easy to do on blockchain.info:
https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow

No risk of the escrow party running off with the money, losing his laptop or getting killed in a carcrash. You just need an independent third party to sign, and if all goes well, he doesnt have to do anything.

That´s actually nice way to do escrow.

So BlackArrow does not need the money from the orders to pay for NRE and the first run?   Because escrow holds the money (or the coins) and does not release until final ship/receipt.    It would also create a lot of BTC exchange risk for the manufacturer since their costs are in $ and the escrow funds in BTC would flucuate each day (I know, BTC only go up).