Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Biffa]

where is blackarrow located ?

 Address: https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

公司地址：广东省深圳市福田区滨河大道与益田路交界东南皇都广场2号楼801 邮编：518048

[Gator-hex]

so if i order today from here, in Feb we get the product 100% ?
where is blackarrow located ?

 Address: https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

公司地址：广东省深圳市福田区滨河大道与益田路交界东南皇都广场2号楼801 邮编：518048

A "Black Arrow LTD" is registered with www.icris.cr.gov.hk but I cannot view the details without handing over cash.

The domain registra lists the web site owner as:
Yi Tian, Black Arrow LTD, 90 Jaffe Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong

There are both HK and Chinese contact numbers in their "About Us"
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

There's lots of other businesses registered at this HK address,
it seems to be office space let in Henan Building, and some companies there may have been scams...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=90+Jaffe+Road+scam

Of course a few bad apples doesn't mean the whole barrel is ruined,
but never risk more than you can afford to lose on pre-orders, it is a speculative investment,
your money is funding the product development, your reward is to get your mining machine
cheaper and earlier than the retail buyer, but you are holding the investment risk.

[Biffa]

so if i order today from here, in Feb we get the product 100% ?
where is blackarrow located ?

 Address: https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

801, Building 2, Huangduguangchang, Yitian Road, Futian District, Shenzhen, Guangdong, P. R. China, Postcode: 518048

公司地址：广东省深圳市福田区滨河大道与益田路交界东南皇都广场2号楼801 邮编：518048

The domain registra lists the web site owner as:
Yi Tian, Black Arrow LTD, 90 Jaffe Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong

There are both HK and Chinese contact numbers in their "About Us"
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html

There's lots of other businesses registered at this HK address,
it seems to be office space let in Henan Building, and some companies their may have been scams...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=90+Jaffe+Road+scam

Of course a few bad apples doesn't mean the whole barrel is ruined,
but never risk more than you can afford to lose on pre-orders, it is a speculative investment,
your money is funding the product development, your reward is to get your mining machine
cheaper and earlier than the retail buyer.

I agree that being circumspect is a prerequisite in dealing with ASIC hardware, I was so careful about it I waited until my supplier started manufacturing before jumping in! 

Now I don't have any stake or money sunk into blackarrow, and don't know more of them other than that they have some track record of building and designing Lancelot FPGAs in the past.

However, registering your domain name at a different address isn't a big deal. And the contact numbers as described on the site are local contact numbers provided as a courtesy to customers so they can make local calls, which are then routed back to the China helpdesk.

So as usual caveat-emptor but I think BA have better credentials than some in the game.

[zurg]

What is the normal time for the orders paid to be updated?
I sent BTC on Saturday and still nothing.

[ionstorm]

What is the normal time for the orders paid to be updated?
I sent BTC on Saturday and still nothing.

i'd order from this company if the minimum order was 1-5 rather than 10+ for the X1

[rammy2k2]

im just asking where they are located, in case i get scammed, to know where i go to kick some ass 
china seems pretty far for me tho ... ill wait for in stock products

[bobsag3]

Hello
I've ordered a prospero-x3 and received an email with a btc account for payment and 24 hours for that, but in his knowledge base blackarrow say:
"Payment & queue
Posted by Support Black Arrow on 18 November 2013 04:17 PM

All orders are shipped in the order of payment, not in the order that they have been placed. This means that by placing an order and not paying it you will not reserve your place in the shipment queue.

All orders have 15 days to arrange a payment for your order. After 15 days we will send a payment reminder which will give you 5 more days to the end of which your order will be cancelled."

I fear that the received email could not be legit and I will send my btc to other people.
Have someone previously paid in that way?
Thanks in advance,
Regards.

I think you are confusing BlackArrow with their US reseller.

Yup.

As for their location etc... I have shipped and received large packages from that location, And I will be visiting their here in about 5 days.

[zurg]

So anyone is getting any communication from BA?
I haven't even gotten an invoice for my 2nd order.

[Xian01]

So anyone is getting any communication from BA?
I haven't even gotten an invoice for my 2nd order.

 Was looking to place an order for 2 x 2 TH February units later today... Hrmph...

[minternj]

Please note that February deliveries are limited because we will produce a limited number of wafers. The remaining orders will need to wait 1 month more until the 2nd batch.

So are you into the 2nd+ batch for sales by now i assume?

[Badonkadonk]

Please note that February deliveries are limited because we will produce a limited number of wafers. The remaining orders will need to wait 1 month more until the 2nd batch.

So are you into the 2nd+ batch for sales by now i assume?

their initial statement was 8000 th in batch 1.
i dont think they have hit that yet

[Badonkadonk]

So anyone is getting any communication from BA?
I haven't even gotten an invoice for my 2nd order.

im still waiting for payment details for a banktransfer aswell.
i ordered 10 x-1`s on friday or saturday i belive.

but they are doing these things manualy so it might take some time i guess.

[Epoch]

so if i order today from here, in Feb we get the product 100% ?

Do you want the truth, or do you want to hear "yes"?

[gh0st]

From 269 yesterday to 359 today?
I´m confused...

[rammy2k2]

so if i order today from here, in Feb we get the product 100% ?

Do you want the truth, or do you want to hear "yes"?

ill just stay away from pre-orders

[Unacceptable]

From 269 yesterday to 359 today?
I´m confused...

I saw that yesterday................guess the rise in BTC price had something to with that,since that $269 was there since the beginning 

[gh0st]

From 269 yesterday to 359 today?
I´m confused...

I saw that yesterday................guess the rise in BTC price had something to with that,since that $269 was there since the beginning 

Well, that was not nice of them.
I was going to order 3 units today, but i don´t have the extra 270USD.
I´ll spend my money on buying more Bitcoins instead.

[d4rkbreaker]

So anyone is getting any communication from BA?
I haven't even gotten an invoice for my 2nd order.

Seems like we are in the same boat, I haven't gotten any new communications from BA either.

[FlappySocks]

I saw that yesterday................guess the rise in BTC price had something to with that,since that $269 was there since the beginning 

No, it clearly states on the first post of this thread:

We are currently offering 35% discount to customers who pay their order in full and 20% discount to customers who wish to pay 50% in advance and 50% before shipment. After October 2013 we will reduce the discounts gradually until they reach their full retail price which is $415 for Prospero X1 (100Ghash) and $6999 for Prospero X3 (2000Ghash).

And also here

http://ecointalk.net/topic/291-discount-change/

[FlappySocks]

Seems like we are in the same boat, I haven't gotten any new communications from BA either.

https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/support/index.php?/News/NewsItem/View/3/slow-tickets-reply