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June 17, 2014, 07:50:21 AM
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All my block eruptors are off-line and all my GPUs are going off-line tonight.

Thanks to Black Arrow I've lost thousands in this venture and I'm no longer in the mining business.

If you have been using block eruptors and GPUs then you haven't actually been in the mining business for a while.

No not that long, I started in October last year. It was profitable enough that I decided to go all-in and get some real hashing power in November.

It's now June and I'm up Shit Creek without a paddle.

Maybe should have sold those block erupters and gpus in recent months and got some Antminers.

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June 17, 2014, 09:18:07 AM
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We've got an industry here where customers of the companies involved are the competition and are being dealt with accordingly. 

agreed, this seems to be how a portion of the industry is acting, but you shouldn't brand the entire industry with the same brush. There are companies out there who will bend over backwards to make sure their customers needs and requirements are fulfilled.
To me, BA still looks like a long scam.

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June 17, 2014, 09:34:42 AM
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All my block eruptors are off-line and all my GPUs are going off-line tonight.

Thanks to Black Arrow I've lost thousands in this venture and I'm no longer in the mining business.

If you have been using block eruptors and GPUs then you haven't actually been in the mining business for a while.

No not that long, I started in October last year. It was profitable enough that I decided to go all-in and get some real hashing power in November.

It's now June and I'm up Shit Creek without a paddle.

Maybe should have sold those block erupters and gpus in recent months and got some Antminers.

Personally I've made some bad decisions. Ordered the Viper from Alpha Tech and now BA is slow in delivering my X3. Life is all about choices and I've made some bad ones earlier.


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June 17, 2014, 11:05:07 AM
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I think at the moment there are some realistic concerns that Black Arrow should address for its customers.

The first is the mystery surrounding compensation and the extra PSU's and shipping charges.  If they are that close to shipping as they say, this needs to be addressed.  People need to know what they need to know.  David and anyone else that monitors this forum should start to ask about this, because while shipping is important, people want to be sure they have ordered the necessary hardware and paid the shipping if that is what is needed.  Or if Black Arrow intends to compensate people further by including those things in the release, they need to let people know who have already purchased the PSU's and are now wondering if that was a mistake.

This needs answering.  It's important.

The obvious requests for further compensation above and beyond what was already promised is warranted based upon Black Arrow's own promise to match the value of what they ship vs the competitor's shipping.  This was not just mentioned way back in 2013, but also recently.  Black Arrow intends to live up to that promise, so if they make their shipping dates as expected, it's time to state what it is they intend to do.  People want to know, not just out of interest, but also because as miners we make strategic purchases to keep our hash-rate up.  If we're going to get more or less hash from Black Arrow, we need to know so we can plan our next moves.  

So it's time now for Black Arrow to discuss their compensation plan to live up to this promise, or just admit that they cannot afford to do more than they have, and live with the consequences.  The issue isn't going to go away, but it could bring about better customer morale if we hear about what the plan is going forward.

There are other questions on the table, but these two are the most important in my mind.  A lot of us have been very patient (A few of us have not been) and it's time for Black Arrow to provide the needed information.  Nobody wants to get a box in the mail with missing parts due to lack of information.

+1 BA PLS READ THIS!!!
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I finally can end this nightmare for the experience with BA...
I got my refunds by BTC the amount I paid for my order last year. yes,in my heart it's not fair,but some better than none...

I will never do preorder anymore,mining is the lessness and meaningless work in the world...
(I have to say,it's shame that I still ming...I think I will end mining when my miner can't mine any more because of the high diff..even that I can never got my money back and make any profit with the miner.)
good luck everyone! hope all you can got want you want..
for the customers here,I want to say,we all are victims...we are cheated by this bitcoin game..wake up !!!
go for your work , go for your friends and family ...forget about bitcoin if you can got out of this stuff like me now...

anyone need help or infos can contact me anyway..
regards
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June 17, 2014, 11:57:44 AM
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I finally can end this nightmare for the experience with BA...
I got my refunds by BTC the amount I paid for my order last year. yes,in my heart it's not fair,but some better than none...

I will never do preorder anymore,mining is the lessness and meaningless work in the world...

good luck everyone! hope all you can got want you want..
for the customers here,I want to say,we all are victims...we are cheated by this bitcoin game..wake up !!!
go for your work , go for your friends and family ...forget about bitcoin if you can got out of this stuff like me now...

anyone need help or infos can contact me anyway..
regards

Reading this,

im guessing they are mining full steam ahead with OUR products.. !!!!!!!!
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June 17, 2014, 12:21:53 PM
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Personally I've made some bad decisions. Ordered the Viper from Alpha Tech and now BA is slow in delivering my X3. Life is all about choices and I've made some bad ones earlier.



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June 17, 2014, 12:32:48 PM
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June 17, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
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I finally can end this nightmare for the experience with BA...
I got my refunds by BTC the amount I paid for my order last year. yes,in my heart it's not fair,but some better than none...

I will never do preorder anymore,mining is the lessness and meaningless work in the world...

good luck everyone! hope all you can got want you want..
for the customers here,I want to say,we all are victims...we are cheated by this bitcoin game..wake up !!!
go for your work , go for your friends and family ...forget about bitcoin if you can got out of this stuff like me now...

anyone need help or infos can contact me anyway..
regards

Reading this,

im guessing they are mining full steam ahead with OUR products.. !!!!!!!!

who knows...I can't have even one reason to trust BA anymore..

.there are not trust , no honor, no reputations no any good quality as a human beings. in the bitcoin world.....all here are kills ,greedy,lazy,steal....bitcoin even can make a good person to bad...

sorry to say that every bitcoiners..that is my real feel after all this from last year...
maybe I will back to bitcoin when it back to 2009...the real it is...
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June 17, 2014, 12:45:41 PM
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June 17, 2014, 12:48:46 PM
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I finally can end this nightmare for the experience with BA...
I got my refunds by BTC the amount I paid for my order last year. yes,in my heart it's not fair,but some better than none...

I will never do preorder anymore,mining is the lessness and meaningless work in the world...

good luck everyone! hope all you can got want you want..
for the customers here,I want to say,we all are victims...we are cheated by this bitcoin game..wake up !!!
go for your work , go for your friends and family ...forget about bitcoin if you can got out of this stuff like me now...

anyone need help or infos can contact me anyway..
regards

While it's good to hear at least one person got a refund. Are you on crack?
sorry,I am not very good at English ,what does on crack means?
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June 17, 2014, 12:52:48 PM
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I finally can end this nightmare for the experience with BA...
I got my refunds by BTC the amount I paid for my order last year. yes,in my heart it's not fair,but some better than none...

I will never do preorder anymore,mining is the lessness and meaningless work in the world...

good luck everyone! hope all you can got want you want..
for the customers here,I want to say,we all are victims...we are cheated by this bitcoin game..wake up !!!
go for your work , go for your friends and family ...forget about bitcoin if you can got out of this stuff like me now...

anyone need help or infos can contact me anyway..
regards

While it's good to hear at least one person got a refund. Are you on crack?
sorry,I am not very good at English ,what does on crack means?

Isn't it obvious?



Just stay away tracyhh!!!  It'll kill ya!

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June 17, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
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Bobsag3,has the X-1 shipment left China as yet?

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June 17, 2014, 02:13:30 PM
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Bobsag3,has the X-1 shipment left China as yet?

It's Tuesday evening in China so if MS is to receive it by Friday it should be out the door by now. Somehow I feel we aren't going to get any confirmation on this though. They'll tell us in the Thur... Friday update.

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June 17, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
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Bobsag3,has the X-1 shipment left China as yet?

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June 17, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
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Still no update about shipping to MS. At this point I'm going to just assume they aren't going to ship this week and that we'll get more information... next week.

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June 17, 2014, 05:06:34 PM
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I got a Dragon Miner (1TH/s) for $1500 + shipping. Suck it, Blackarrow.
I ordered a week 4 Fury from Gawminer for 110$, sadly it didn't ship yesterday like it was supposed to but they pay the coin i would have mined.

I was looking at those, someone commented that they're having power issues with it. I have no idea if batches 1-3 shipped so I didn't bother.

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June 17, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
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Bobsag, you said that orders would be shipped this Thursday/Friday with appropriate compensation.  Assuming that happens (otherwise I will cancel my order) do I need to order PSU's for the comp units?  And how many?

I was just thinking about that. They won't tell us anything for fear someone might try to intercept the delivery.  Roll Eyes I'm sure Maybe they'll let us know on Friday.

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June 17, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
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Bobsag, you said that orders would be shipped this Thursday/Friday with appropriate compensation.  Assuming that happens (otherwise I will cancel my order) do I need to order PSU's for the comp units?  And how many?

You may want to hold off on ordering the compensation PSUs until they start delivering the compensation PSUs to people who ordered over a month ago. I have no idea why is take more than a month to deliver PSUs.

Minersource: Why did you take orders for PSUs that you are not ready to ship in a reasonable amount of time? One month is too long. We know they will be mailed separately from the miners. I have not heard anything from BA or Minersource about X1s, X3, or the compensation PSUs that I already paid for.
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