cryptoxx
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November 04, 2014, 10:48:41 PM |
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ShadowOfThePast
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November 04, 2014, 11:51:05 PM |
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I think that contacting Alliance of Angels is a great idea. I suggest we get our ducks in a row with a timeline and screen shots of the claims made in this thread and the info we know about the IP addresses and website registrations.
I was looking for one or two posts the other day made by bholzer and some seem to be missing (deleted), either that or the search facility here isn't too clever. Not sure about Octocoin posts but I don't think he/she ever made that claim him/herself. pretty irrelevant considering the octohub.org site is registered under Alliance of Angels... http://whois.domaintools.com/octohub.org
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cryptoxx
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November 05, 2014, 12:27:59 AM |
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Oh wow. I hadn't seen the whois for octohub. Had only seen octocoin.org. Someone calmer about this all than me should email Alliance of Angels I think.
I'm still in shock that we're talking about Fraud at this point. Like, that that's what it's come to. But it certainly seems like it has.
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frameLAlife
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November 05, 2014, 01:31:57 AM |
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^^^ all correct.
and if you read some of the later posts, Bholzer actually says that the devs asked him to delete some posts which are why they are missing.
good thing you can get the backup on the other site. they keep all even if deleted.
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frameLAlife
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November 05, 2014, 01:41:23 AM |
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I think that contacting Alliance of Angels is a great idea. I suggest we get our ducks in a row with a timeline and screen shots of the claims made in this thread and the info we know about the IP addresses and website registrations.
I was looking for one or two posts the other day made by bholzer and some seem to be missing (deleted), either that or the search facility here isn't too clever. Not sure about Octocoin posts but I don't think he/she ever made that claim him/herself. pretty irrelevant considering the octohub.org site is registered under Alliance of Angels... http://whois.domaintools.com/octohub.orgmore interesting: Registrant Name:Brock Connis Registrant Organization:Alliance of Angels Registrant Street: 719 Second Ave Registrant City:Seattle
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cryptoxx
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November 05, 2014, 02:01:18 AM |
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more interesting:
Registrant Name:Brock Connis Registrant Organization:Alliance of Angels Registrant Street: 719 Second Ave Registrant City:Seattle
Do you mean the 'con' in the last name there?
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GWCalvert
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November 05, 2014, 02:24:23 AM |
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I think that contacting Alliance of Angels is a great idea. I suggest we get our ducks in a row with a timeline and screen shots of the claims made in this thread and the info we know about the IP addresses and website registrations.
I was looking for one or two posts the other day made by bholzer and some seem to be missing (deleted), either that or the search facility here isn't too clever. Not sure about Octocoin posts but I don't think he/she ever made that claim him/herself. pretty irrelevant considering the octohub.org site is registered under Alliance of Angels... http://whois.domaintools.com/octohub.orgmore interesting: Registrant Name:Brock Connis Registrant Organization:Alliance of Angels Registrant Street: 719 Second Ave Registrant City:Seattle A little Google investigation reveals that bholzer's (Brock Holzer) mother's maiden name is Connis... The address listed is the AoA address (minus their suite number), but you can use any address when registering a domain name.
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shellbunner
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November 05, 2014, 02:54:40 AM |
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This just keeps getting weirder and weirder. Brock, what's the story?
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November 05, 2014, 04:43:18 AM |
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I think that contacting Alliance of Angels is a great idea. I suggest we get our ducks in a row with a timeline and screen shots of the claims made in this thread and the info we know about the IP addresses and website registrations.
I was looking for one or two posts the other day made by bholzer and some seem to be missing (deleted), either that or the search facility here isn't too clever. Not sure about Octocoin posts but I don't think he/she ever made that claim him/herself. pretty irrelevant considering the octohub.org site is registered under Alliance of Angels... http://whois.domaintools.com/octohub.orgmore interesting: Registrant Name:Brock Connis Registrant Organization:Alliance of Angels Registrant Street: 719 Second Ave Registrant City:Seattle A little Google investigation reveals that bholzer's (Brock Holzer) mother's maiden name is Connis... The address listed is the AoA address (minus their suite number), but you can use any address when registering a domain name. So we definitely been scammed by bholzer, I take it thats y he hasn't been back on this thread cause we have discovered who the scammer is
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wtf_wtf
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November 05, 2014, 04:49:34 AM |
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I emailed Allianace of Angels. I figured why the f not. I kept it simple and short. I just said that the octocoin developers have made promises they haven't kept. I asked if they were involved with octocoin and if they knew why the developers haven't released anything.
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brianbbad
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November 05, 2014, 05:32:22 AM |
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Let's not jump to any conclusions just yet. Brock is one of the few people in the altcoin world whose identity is public, so I doubt he would do anything that might get him arrested/sued/etc.
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November 05, 2014, 06:53:26 AM |
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Let's not jump to any conclusions just yet. Brock is one of the few people in the altcoin world whose identity is public, so I doubt he would do anything that might get him arrested/sued/etc.
Agreed, lets not start a witch hunt here. Its easy to jump to conclusions, but making false accusations does nothing but make you look foolish. On the other hand, I'm super curious as to why it appears the domain is registered under Brock's name. Deadlines must surely be something familiar for someone who runs a scheduling app, much like it is for a team of proven entrepreneurs and business executives
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langvad
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November 05, 2014, 09:24:49 AM |
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I´m done with this coin, if I get the opportunity and if it will ever get on an exchange again, I´m selling mine. I believed it had very good potentiale especially in China, but seems like it wasnt meant to be:/
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LeFiste
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November 05, 2014, 01:09:57 PM |
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Bholzer...if you're watching this...just tell us: Is this project abandoned or still alive? If it's abandoned, just admit it!!! We need an answer, since some need to know if they can write off their investment or not. TELL US!
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November 05, 2014, 01:48:56 PM |
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why is anyone assuming that any link made to Alliance of Angels isn't completely fraudulent like every other claim that has been made?
show me one shred of proof that Alliance of Angels has even heard of some garbage called: "octocoin"
it's pathetic that no one here has followed up on that. myself included.
well i'm about to email them asking if they've ever been associated with octocoin, but you guys don't want me to be the one to do that.
*edit, just emailed them, we'll see if they think i'm a crazy person or not. wonding why someone's asking for their alleged connection to something called octocoin.
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November 05, 2014, 04:59:22 PM Last edit: November 05, 2014, 05:14:34 PM by th0ms0n |
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Domain Name:OCTOHUB.ORG Domain ID: D173033262-LROR Creation Date: 2014-06-20T04:12:35Z Updated Date: 2014-08-20T03:45:40Z Registry Expiry Date: 2015-06-20T04:12:35Z Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited Registrant ID:CR170870995 Registrant Name:Brock Connis Registrant Organization:Alliance of Angels Registrant Street: 719 Second Ave Registrant City:Seattle Registrant State/Province:Washington Registrant Postal Code:98104 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.8889987627 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:admin@octocoin.org Admin ID:CR170870997 Admin Name:Brock Connis Admin Organization:Alliance of Angels Admin Street: 719 Second Ave Admin City:Seattle Admin State/Province:Washington Admin Postal Code:98104 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.8889987627 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:admin@octocoin.org Tech ID:CR170870996 Tech Name:Brock Connis Tech Organization:Alliance of Angels Tech Street: 719 Second Ave Tech City:Seattle Tech State/Province:Washington Tech Postal Code:98104 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.8889987627 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:admin@octocoin.org Name Server:NS47.DOMAINCONTROL.COM Name Server:NS48.DOMAINCONTROL.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
But could be a scam as well..
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GWCalvert
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November 05, 2014, 06:45:08 PM |
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Domain Name:OCTOHUB.ORG Domain ID: D173033262-LROR Creation Date: 2014-06-20T04:12:35Z Updated Date: 2014-08-20T03:45:40Z Registry Expiry Date: 2015-06-20T04:12:35Z Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR) Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 WHOIS Server: Referral URL: Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited Registrant ID:CR170870995 Registrant Name:Brock Connis Registrant Organization:Alliance of Angels Registrant Street: 719 Second Ave Registrant City:Seattle Registrant State/Province:Washington Registrant Postal Code:98104 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.8889987627 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:admin@octocoin.org Admin ID:CR170870997 Admin Name:Brock Connis Admin Organization:Alliance of Angels Admin Street: 719 Second Ave Admin City:Seattle Admin State/Province:Washington Admin Postal Code:98104 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.8889987627 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email:admin@octocoin.org Tech ID:CR170870996 Tech Name:Brock Connis Tech Organization:Alliance of Angels Tech Street: 719 Second Ave Tech City:Seattle Tech State/Province:Washington Tech Postal Code:98104 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.8889987627 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email:admin@octocoin.org Name Server:NS47.DOMAINCONTROL.COM Name Server:NS48.DOMAINCONTROL.COM Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC:Unsigned
But could be a scam as well..
You can enter any organization name, address, etc when you register a domain name. As I said previously, that is AoA's address, minus their suite number but that does not mean that they registered or own the site. The only other website listed with AoA as the organization is AllianceofAngels.com... so I highly doubt that they were the ones who registered octohub.org. The contact phone number listed above is also the contact number listed for a website (badbi.com) owned by Cody Harris. Cody Harris was the co-founder of SnapAppointments with Brock Holzer and has been friends with him since they were 6 years old according to badbi.com and codyandallison.com where Cody's upcoming marriage plans are discussed. Brock Holzer is the best man.
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November 05, 2014, 08:34:49 PM |
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I think everyone should start messaging on the murraycoin thread asking bholzer to explain, I know if you message on that thread it would get taken down pretty fast by bholzer, but it would get his attention if all of us did it
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November 05, 2014, 08:41:46 PM |
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Let's face it, the OCTO is dead!!! 
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