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January 27, 2025, 10:29:31 PM
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It’s not useless and no one said that but you can’t say "Ai can predict the future"
Do you know how AI work, do you know how they generate their replies?
Don’t know but it seems like you are one of those who overestimate the capabilities of AI.
AI is just a tool, as I said it can help you make a better decision but there is no guarantee it will be the best decision.

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January 27, 2025, 11:25:05 PM
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Another use of bots in the gambling industry is in analysis and predictions based on available statistics and history. You wouldn’t get into trouble with these as they don’t cheat the system but, leaves with with possibilities for decision making.
Well, I also agree that sometimes in some cases bots can good good analysis based on available data but it's still always best to use those to make your own predictions and not heavily rely on the predictions that they generate based on previous matches data.

I took some help from AI bots a few months back to test how reliable their prediction is and to be honest it was really bad.

I lost some bets only because I trusted those bots but it was basically a test to see if such predictions work or not, however I must say the bets were done with real money. Although, I didn't lose a lot but still I got an idea that relying purely on those bots is not the way to go.

Ok good, I also have this idea to use bots to make some sports betting, a sport that I now nothing about. However, even as highly advance this bots are, based on your experienced, we are still going to lose money.

So with that, I will not go and experiment with this one, I would rather bet on the sports that I know, based on my intuition and knowledge and then play on some luck base games. At least, if I lost some money, I will still have that fun inside of me and maybe help me gain experienced. So thanks for sharing your own experience with bots.


Bots for sports-betting? Do the casinos allow you to connect to their ssrvice through an API like what crypto exchanges do?

Plus what would be the bets for? Simple analysis and automation, or does sports-betting actually require speed of execution too?

I don't believe we actually need "bots", but we definitely need analysis of large data-sets. I hope you share what you build with us plebs.

It's like AI bots for as we have threads about it,

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Perhaps it was all about the semantics of 'bots', and 'AI', and for me you can used them interchangeably.

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January 27, 2025, 11:40:53 PM
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So if a bot or AI can't predict the future results of a game or match how then it's being helpful to us ?
To me it's as useless as not having it anymore, since they can't give accurate results about future games. I think had came across similar discussion the other days thereabouts, I see no sense or reason why we should be using bot or evening capitalizing on them to help enhance our winning, while at last it would results to series of lost while employing to those tools for predictions.
AI cannot accurately predict the outcome of matches that have not yet been played - so what's the point of relying on them. I would ask you to think twice if you want to predict the outcome of a match with AI - that sounds really silly. Even if AI can help - then the tool only helps you complete data from several previous matches or the latest data regarding the team's condition.

If you want to predict the outcome of a match - then you should know about the teams that will play from both teams. One of them is the favorite - so their probability of winning is likely to be high. It is still safe for you to choose your favorite team in each match instead of using AI to predict.

I'm not really sure about it, but I have the impression that bookmakers are now using AI tools to predict the opening line or the odds in any sports. Obviously, it make their lives easier that AI can crunch the data in minutes and they can have the betting line right away.

But I do agree that it's not a guarantee because it is still the unknown that we put our bets. And with this info, still base on us whether we like the odds or not. It's just the starting line for us. And if we don't like it then it's better not to bet at all or go against the favorite.

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January 28, 2025, 09:44:06 AM
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Hello again everybody!

I believe that if the casino is truly "legit", then the admins behind them would like to have the best experience for ALL of their users. Good user experience = good reputation. Good reputation = more users.

And we certainly do want all our legitimate users to have an amazing experience at Betpanda!

It has always baffled us why casinos would want to mess people over for no good reason, that is quite literally the most counterintuitive thing you can do.

If they allow users to use tools like gambling bots, it is not logical if they simply accuse against their users by bot usage.

They must need more indicators to trigger an investigation on one account, like suspicious activities, possible cheating, and can not use bot usage as the only one or main reason of cheating accusation on their platform. Because you are experienced, I believe you know that in many scam accusations from community, later were proven as invalid scam accusations, because casinos provide more information and shown that those users actually had bad and intolerable activities.

Well, there are rules and on this, at least at Betpanda.

2. YOUR OBLIGATIONS AS A PLAYER

You as a player agree to not make use of any third party programs, tools or bots that automate and/or hack gameplay in any way shape or form. In the event of suspected use of third party actions, Betpanda.io reserves the right to hold player withdrawal for further investigation, and may confiscate any winnings derived from usage of this event


And we believe that most casinos have something similar in place. However, using bots to analyse sporting events and provide you with insights so you can make a more informed decision…that is just good decision making.

If you're playing with pleb amounts of money, and your casino wants you to go through KYC, then I believe it's time for you to leave that casino.

As long as you are not breaking any rules, you wont be facing this issue Smiley

Much really better to stick with basics and gamble base on your capability since with this for sure they would pay more attention on what they are doing then enjoy more playing with this set up. I know many want to win but better to learn other things and don't really to much on any tool which promise them to give unrealistic profits.

Hear, hear!

I noticed about this promotion since betpanda launched but I misunderstood how it works because I thought it is 100 EUR wager per ticket only so I thought that I can earn the 4 tickets in a single day but I was wrong. So I have 2 out of 4 tickets only which means I have no chance to make it 4/4 since it is already Saturday.

Yes, unfortunately there was one ticket per day limit in the competition.

If a trader is a bad one, it's impossible to use trading bots well and it can not help that bad trader to reduce loss and get more profit with bot trading.
Same with a bad gambler, if you don't have right method to gamble and win, you can not use gambling bot to increase your net gambling income.

Please don’t use bots at Betpanda, it will make Panda sad.

I'm not really sure about it, but I have the impression that bookmakers are now using AI tools to predict the opening line or the odds in any sports. Obviously, it make their lives easier that AI can crunch the data in minutes and they can have the betting line right away.

This may very well be true to an extent, but there is always a human element in the odds as well. Otherwise no casino and/or provider would stand out with their odds whatsoever, it would just be the same across the board pretty much. Depending on the source of the information of course, but it would probably be largely very similar with little fluctuation.

If AI was doing all the work, the role of an odds trader would be largely obsolete. And it isn’t, so…
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January 28, 2025, 02:11:31 PM
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It’s not useless and no one said that but you can’t say "Ai can predict the future"
Do you know how AI work, do you know how they generate their replies?
Don’t know but it seems like you are one of those who overestimate the capabilities of AI.
AI is just a tool, as I said it can help you make a better decision but there is no guarantee it will be the best decision.
AI only obeys the commands of the instructors who happens to build the tools, and of course they are regularly being updated at all time to reflects with the real life data of any events. And of course i gree that we can't totally rely on the outcome of AI, but partially may guide us to a better decision making but there is no sign of true result since most of the live event are hardly to predicts such as football or any other live sports games.

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January 28, 2025, 08:53:05 PM
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Well, there are rules and on this, at least at Betpanda.

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You as a player agree to not make use of any third party programs, tools or bots that automate and/or hack gameplay in any way shape or form. In the event of suspected use of third party actions, Betpanda.io reserves the right to hold player withdrawal for further investigation, and may confiscate any winnings derived from usage of this event


And we believe that most casinos have something similar in place. However, using bots to analyse sporting events and provide you with insights so you can make a more informed decision…that is just good decision making.

This we can agree on,
Don’t be surprised to find users that would think, this isn’t Crystal enough and would want to know the path through which this suspicion are developed and how to evade them.

With regards to gambling, once you use AI in executing a decision rather than as a tool to come to a decision that you would execute yourself, you might find yourself faulting that policy which is almost the same on every other gambling site.

As much as AI can be useful, it can be used wrongly or abused.

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Well, there are rules and on this, at least at Betpanda.

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You as a player agree to not make use of any third party programs, tools or bots that automate and/or hack gameplay in any way shape or form. In the event of suspected use of third party actions, Betpanda.io reserves the right to hold player withdrawal for further investigation, and may confiscate any winnings derived from usage of this event


And we believe that most casinos have something similar in place. However, using bots to analyse sporting events and provide you with insights so you can make a more informed decision…that is just good decision making.

This we can agree on,
Don’t be surprised to find users that would think, this isn’t Crystal enough and would want to know the path through which this suspicion are developed and how to evade them.

With regards to gambling, once you use AI in executing a decision rather than as a tool to come to a decision that you would execute yourself, you might find yourself faulting that policy which is almost the same on every other gambling site.

As much as AI can be useful, it can be used wrongly or abused.


If the casino doesn't allow the user to connect their automated third party programs through API, then it's definitely obvious that they don't welcome that. Plus if your automated third party program scrapes screen data to process the games so it could do its work, then we can definitely make a presumption that it's doing something against the casino's Terms Of Use.

It's simple.

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But for the sake of formality and clarity the casino must put it in writing.

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January 29, 2025, 06:23:21 PM
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But for the sake of formality and clarity the casino must put it in writing.
Of course casino doesn't forget to include things in a written form concerning their site. Most times we can see some casinos that prohibit using some of specific tools on their site and if anyone goes contrary to their terms automatically that account would be restricted for bridging and going against terms and condition, casino are more stringent with their terms if it's on a written form.

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January 29, 2025, 10:17:34 PM
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It’s not useless and no one said that but you can’t say "Ai can predict the future"
Do you know how AI work, do you know how they generate their replies?
Don’t know but it seems like you are one of those who overestimate the capabilities of AI.
AI is just a tool, as I said it can help you make a better decision but there is no guarantee it will be the best decision.
In most cases, AI still depends largely on human materials to make any analysis or judgment, and that is why AI can never have an accurate judgment on things since the AI tools are designed to work with available information and Data to make their judgments then means that AI can not function without the help of a human and there will be no AI without human help or operations, so we shouldn't forget that also when we try to point out the capability and features of an AI or even make attempts to compare AI capabilities to a human at any point, AI is designed to complement human efforts, and AI is best to address as an alternative tool for human work's.

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January 29, 2025, 11:33:57 PM
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Bots for sports-betting? Do the casinos allow you to connect to their ssrvice through an API like what crypto exchanges do?

Plus what would be the bets for? Simple analysis and automation, or does sports-betting actually require speed of execution too?

I don't believe we actually need "bots", but we definitely need analysis of large data-sets. I hope you share what you build with us plebs.
I used bots that weren't connected to the casinos through API, but as we have information about matches online and those bots can access such information without any issue. The bots just give you some type of prediction based on reading the previous matches of both teams, and then it's on you either to place the bets or not, or to do further research. The bots can be useful in future, especially those LLM's but as of now they can't be much reliable. Still, even if they get better than still they'll just give us educated bets and nothing else.

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Bots for sports-betting? Do the casinos allow you to connect to their ssrvice through an API like what crypto exchanges do?

Plus what would be the bets for? Simple analysis and automation, or does sports-betting actually require speed of execution too?

I don't believe we actually need "bots", but we definitely need analysis of large data-sets. I hope you share what you build with us plebs.
I used bots that weren't connected to the casinos through API, but as we have information about matches online and those bots can access such information without any issue. The bots just give you some type of prediction based on reading the previous matches of both teams, and then it's on you either to place the bets or not, or to do further research. The bots can be useful in future, especially those LLM's but as of now they can't be much reliable. Still, even if they get better than still they'll just give us educated bets and nothing else.


OK, "the bot" that you could connect through the API is actually not a real bot that automates your actions. They're mere data collection software for sports-betting services that you could use to analyze information and decide if it's a good bet.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but what software did you use to connect to the sports-betting service, and what are the sports-betting services that allow us plebs to connect through API?

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January 30, 2025, 06:38:07 AM
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Bots for sports-betting? Do the casinos allow you to connect to their ssrvice through an API like what crypto exchanges do?

Plus what would be the bets for? Simple analysis and automation, or does sports-betting actually require speed of execution too?

I don't believe we actually need "bots", but we definitely need analysis of large data-sets. I hope you share what you build with us plebs.
I used bots that weren't connected to the casinos through API, but as we have information about matches online and those bots can access such information without any issue. The bots just give you some type of prediction based on reading the previous matches of both teams, and then it's on you either to place the bets or not, or to do further research. The bots can be useful in future, especially those LLM's but as of now they can't be much reliable. Still, even if they get better than still they'll just give us educated bets and nothing else.


OK, "the bot" that you could connect through the API is actually not a real bot that automates your actions. They're mere data collection software for sports-betting services that you could use to analyze information and decide if it's a good bet.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but what software did you use to connect to the sports-betting service, and what are the sports-betting services that allow us plebs to connect through API?

It seems that he is not talking about real bot which is connected through API on the betting service/casino but I guess he is talking about simple prediction AI only which is a 3rd party service where people can get prediction for sports matches and they can place the bet on any betting service manually. I have never seen any bot connected to specific betting service for sports betting where we can use the bot to place bet automatically based on the prediction made by the bot.

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January 30, 2025, 08:51:58 AM
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Bots for sports-betting? Do the casinos allow you to connect to their ssrvice through an API like what crypto exchanges do?

Plus what would be the bets for? Simple analysis and automation, or does sports-betting actually require speed of execution too?

I don't believe we actually need "bots", but we definitely need analysis of large data-sets. I hope you share what you build with us plebs.
I used bots that weren't connected to the casinos through API, but as we have information about matches online and those bots can access such information without any issue. The bots just give you some type of prediction based on reading the previous matches of both teams, and then it's on you either to place the bets or not, or to do further research. The bots can be useful in future, especially those LLM's but as of now they can't be much reliable. Still, even if they get better than still they'll just give us educated bets and nothing else.


OK, "the bot" that you could connect through the API is actually not a real bot that automates your actions. They're mere data collection software for sports-betting services that you could use to analyze information and decide if it's a good bet.

Pardon me for my ignorance, but what software did you use to connect to the sports-betting service, and what are the sports-betting services that allow us plebs to connect through API?

It seems that he is not talking about real bot which is connected through API on the betting service/casino but I guess he is talking about simple prediction AI only which is a 3rd party service where people can get prediction for sports matches and they can place the bet on any betting service manually. I have never seen any bot connected to specific betting service for sports betting where we can use the bot to place bet automatically based on the prediction made by the bot.

Right, I also not aware of a AI bot that is similar to a trading bot that we have used in crypto that can be used and connected to trading exchanges. ChatGPT is a good example of an AI that can be asked for a particular sporting event and predict the outcome of the match.

But I do agree that it is still not advance as we like or even if it goes advance in the next 5 years, I will still not rely on those kind of AI to help me choose what to beat on my favorite sports. Most of us still trust are analysis of the games as we could have been following that sports for a long time, more than the AI itself.

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January 30, 2025, 10:13:35 AM
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hey this casino scammed me and blocked every conversation how can i get help?
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January 30, 2025, 10:29:36 AM
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hey this casino scammed me and blocked every conversation how can i get help?

What do you mean by Scammed?
A bet incorrectly evaluated or does closed yout account.

Let´s see what happens, but I think someone from betpanda will comment here...
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January 30, 2025, 10:54:58 AM
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hey this casino scammed me and blocked every conversation how can i get help?
Make a thread on scam accusation board and post all your proofs and evidence then link the thread here. If you didn't do any against the casino's TOS then it might be resolve soon by Betpanda's representative here, else no one can help you about it.

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January 30, 2025, 11:49:31 AM
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hey this casino scammed me and blocked every conversation how can i get help?
Make a thread on scam accusation board and post all your proofs and evidence then link the thread here. If you didn't do any against the casino's TOS then it might be resolve soon by Betpanda's representative here, else no one can help you about it.
It would be considered trolling to say that especially if there is evidence...not making a legitimate accusation...

Betpanda is a reputable casino if there is a complaint I'm sure they can resolve as long as it doesn't violate any rules.
So far I have used Betpanda it has not experienced any problems.

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January 30, 2025, 12:46:53 PM
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hey this casino scammed me and blocked every conversation how can i get help?
Make a thread on scam accusation board and post all your proofs and evidence then link the thread here. If you didn't do any against the casino's TOS then it might be resolve soon by Betpanda's representative here, else no one can help you about it.

Usually trolls won't post on right section since provably that their main intention is just to create drama in this thread.

If they don't want to call as trolls and people will now the real situation happen to them they better post those proof which is always been asked and needed before they accused a casino.

So provably for now people won't believe on scamming words unless he came out here could post those necessary information needed. It will not take a lot of their time to post that and for sure they can get the attention of people especially if they can show a proof that validate their concerns.

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January 30, 2025, 01:47:01 PM
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hey this casino scammed me and blocked every conversation how can i get help?
You can read about my negative experience here.

If you didn't do any against the casino's TOS then it might be resolve soon by Betpanda's representative here, else no one can help you about it.
They just need to appeal to the terms and conditions, claiming that you defrauded them, and you won’t be able to resolve anything. So, even if you haven’t violated anything, there’s no way to defend yourself.

Betpanda is a reputable casino if there is a complaint I'm sure they can resolve as long as it doesn't violate any rules.
So far I have used Betpanda it has not experienced any problems.
I don't know what world you live in, but I invite you to take a look at Trustpilot, AskGamblers, and Casino.Guru to understand how poorly this bookmaker is regarded.
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January 30, 2025, 04:31:40 PM
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i have proof i wanted to withdraw months ago then they did decline my withdrawal and closed my account support didnt help and cut the support line down so u cant contact them anymore

on there other site cryptorino.io [email protected] is my mail hope betpanda gives me my funds


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