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February 20, 2025, 08:22:00 PM
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If this is the case, a little patience goes a long way and he should have his full access of the account in no time, but then again KYC process shouldn't take forever as other players and watching how this is being handled and wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

Am just hoping,  Betpanda can work with KYC service providers like "sumsub" in the future who would make this process a breeze as they kind of keep a file on user's and you can simply verify it's you and data is verified in no time. ** of course Data conscious users this isn't the best option to trade privacy for convenience **
I'm not sure how many gamblers really care about the privacy and security of their data. I think some of them are too easy to provide personal documents for KYC purposes at various casinos before they leave the casino forever without asking the casino to delete them from the database. Even though this data can still be deleted upon request from the customer - some gamblers ignore it.

Regarding KYC - I think this is a requirement of a centralized service including casinos and most exchange platforms. KYC is intended to prevent various abuses on the platform - but it is true that the security of customer data is still always questioned in various places. If they cared about privacy - then perhaps they would never have dealt with a crypto casino that requires KYC for all its customers.

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February 20, 2025, 11:07:09 PM
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What is wrong is when people expect too much from deposit bonus or when people think that they are on +EV by taking deposit bonus.
Yeah, most of the time when the marketing of the casino is too good, as someone who was attracted by the numbers given, they just eventually deposit or register to get the deposit bonus without knowing they need to achieve a pile of requirements for them to be qualified then just to get disappointed and feel cheated once they contact the support or reread the bonus terms lol.
Because maybe they think with a deposit bonus can be withdrawn easily if they win in the bet ... even though we know so many stacks of betting requirements to fulfill it.
Arhh I never took part of the deposit bonus because I knew it would be difficult to win.
Even if it's 300% first deposit bonus. Grin

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This is better system than we remain being logged in after closing the browser, so I have to say that Betpanda cares about their user's account to avoid something unexpected.
For some people it can be something annoying but for those who cares about their account's security, it must be the most preferable system so they have less worry.
So maybe Betpanda can provide an option for players to choose which one to be implement, whether players to stay login after closing browser or getting logged out after closing browser.
I myself prefer to get logged out once I closed my browser although sometime I also feel inconvenience but I have to take it for better security purpose.

That is indeed a good point, we have still asked from the powers to be if this is on purpose or not. We are assuming it is, for the reasons you have mentioned, but good to confirm.

So far we have not experienced any recaptcha problems, in fact there is no “recaptcha” when you want to log in.

Exactly, there is not supposed to be…but some users reported seeing one, preventing them from signing in. It was quickly solved however!

Also they have 2FA to protect our account as well. So it might be better for some of us to take advantage of this feature, just in case, IMHO.

Yes, we indeed strongly recommend enabling 2FA for maximum security!

@Betpanda need your assistance with a deposit mishap , coins were sent on opBSC #blockchain instead of bep20 usdt (Binance) which is an honest mistake on my side.

Apologies for the slow reply, we believe that our Support has given you the information regarding this transaction already.

@Betpanda sent you a DM regarding the KYC on my account, I would appreciate if you could look it up
How come a user came from non-KYC casino ask for KYC-related question for his/er account. Did the casino required you to undergo KYC procedures? Or what's this all about.
KYC can be asked if the user broke ToS on Betpanda or if their partners, game providers flag that account, KYC will be triggered and very possible account closure/ termination.

That is correct, there won’t be KYC related inquiries made unless there is activity on the account that is in the breach of our T&C.

Chiming in just to say a big thank you to Betpanda casino for offering bitcointalk exclusive slot multiplier contest in which, beside havig fun on their games, I was lucky enough to hit  a nice multiplier and placed second for a nice € 150 prize

Afterwards I received my prize flawlessly and was able to withdraw almost istantly part of the winnings, still playing there with what I left in my account and lets see if I manage to place in another of their multiplir contests.

Lovely, that is great to hear, you are most welcome! Smiley

I agree with others that some verification might be needed for larger withdrawals, which is pretty standard in the industry. Looking forward to seeing what exclusive promotions you'll offer for Bitcointalk members.

The size of your withdrawal alone is not enough to trigger a KYC at Betpanda!

Agreed, betpanda need to change the title no need to remove it completely but maybe change it to something like KYC-Friendly Casino or something similar since KYC is still optional here.
When people read "anonymous casino", most of them will think that there is no KYC at all in the casino and it may make people disappointed later if they are being asked for KYC while they think that it will not happen.
Although we know that it is just a marketing gimmick to attract players, but it should not be something that may give wrong information.

KYC won’t be requested from players who use our services as per our rules, so as long as you are a legitimate user, it is no KYC for you!

We reserve the right to verify your identity upon your gambling reaching a certain threshold, but we maintain discretion to verify your identity at any time.
I just thought of having "anonymous casino" as marketing line is for non-KYC but i was wrong lol. But that's fine now, understand.

We know that this particular line mentioning a “threshold” was a sticking point here earlier.

You spoke and we listened, and got the T&C updated to reflect reality: there is no threshold.

Only if you engage in dodgy activities.

Are any of you having problems logging in?

I tried logging in, filling in my email & password, but then there was a notification that I had to complete ReCaptcha before logging in, but the ReCaptcha never came.

I'm experiencing similar issues, logging out every 5-10 minutes too. Hopefully, they'll address this soon to provide a smoother experience.

Yes, we had momentary issues with this, but they were solved in short order. Apologies for any inconvenience caused!

Community have demands and can raise their voice to the company for consideration, but if future tournaments apply same rules and conditions, Betpanda community have to accept it and move on. The company does not force any user to join their tournament and I think $1 is not too much with gambler or even cryptocurrency investor or trader.

I don't attack your suggestion that if applies can bring more joy to many users, but I am not surprised if it won't be approved by Betpanda team.

We forward all feedback to the powers to be, and hopefully they listen!

Anyway, judging from the two accusations created by the user, looks like he is guilty here. The user has been blocked by another betting site where the odds provider is Betby. Still, Betpanda team should have given a reply to the user by now. @Little Mouse, can you forward it to them?

Apologies about the delay there, we have replied to the thread.

Betpanda is sound like Foodpanda the food Delivery services Grin by the way it was just fun

We hope the correlation is positive!

I can go here for a short time to gamble or I can use this site to bet on a single match. Why do I have to wager 10x to withdraw the money after depositing funds? I don't accept any bonuses, so I think this wagering is too high.

Wagering of deposits is something we monitor closely and reevaluate when needed, but this condition was added for a reason.

However, this is all good feedback from the community and can bring change if echoed.
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February 21, 2025, 11:08:52 AM
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@Betpanda need your assistance with a deposit mishap , coins were sent on opBSC #blockchain instead of bep20 usdt (Binance) which is an honest mistake on my side.

Apologies for the slow reply, we believe that our Support has given you the information regarding this transaction already.
I got some unsatisfactory answer if am to be honest,  was told to contact wallet providers or something in those lines which was a very strange response tbh, other exchanges and sportsbooks do get to do this manually but am wondering why this cant be done here  Cry. And contacting wallet providers was never going to help because this isn't fiat or PayPal were a charge back  is at the click of a button.

But I have made my peace because the writing is on the wall that i have lost these coins, but for my record will stick transaction id here for safe keeping to insure funds aren't spent without alerting me.

Not to be spent TX ( see you later my dinosaur 🦕)

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February 21, 2025, 06:33:33 PM
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I got some unsatisfactory answer if am to be honest,  was told to contact wallet providers or something in those lines which was a very strange response tbh, other exchanges and sportsbooks do get to do this manually but am wondering why this cant be done here  Cry. And contacting wallet providers was never going to help because this isn't fiat or PayPal were a charge back  is at the click of a button.
Actually the fault was yours - of course, but I see you admitting the mistake. The casino may have the right to refuse your request regarding the transaction - but it would probably be wiser if they resolved your problem manually. I've never come across a similar case before - but hopefully you can get your $111 back or at least they fund your account with the same amount.

I'm not sure you'll make it - but hopefully you get it back. My question to betpanda - is it possible to refund this or at least you fund that user's account with the same amount?

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February 21, 2025, 11:34:28 PM
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@Betpanda need your assistance with a deposit mishap , coins were sent on opBSC #blockchain instead of bep20 usdt (Binance) which is an honest mistake on my side.

Apologies for the slow reply, we believe that our Support has given you the information regarding this transaction already.
I got some unsatisfactory answer if am to be honest,  was told to contact wallet providers or something in those lines which was a very strange response tbh, other exchanges and sportsbooks do get to do this manually but am wondering why this cant be done here  Cry. And contacting wallet providers was never going to help because this isn't fiat or PayPal were a charge back  is at the click of a button.

But I have made my peace because the writing is on the wall that i have lost these coins, but for my record will stick transaction id here for safe keeping to insure funds aren't spent without alerting me.

Not to be spent TX ( see you later my dinosaur 🦕)

https://opbnb.bscscan.com/tx/0x6503f2fceb047687c6f7ab209fe85ab2e58fc185d9d36c7794ca93f58578b5b7




Actually the platform cannot do anything if they don't support Opbsc network you really need to coordinate it on the platform where you last send it since they are the one who can solve your issue. And your missing funds would only reflect if they already support that network. But if they won't do it due to low of demand or maybe other technicalities I guess your funds will remain floating out there.

Maybe better learn from those mistake and make sure to check multiple time if you use the correct network. Since BSC and BNB is confusing due to many network supported.

Experience this kind of issue before and until now I didn't recover my funds.

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February 21, 2025, 11:49:28 PM
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I got some unsatisfactory answer if am to be honest,  was told to contact wallet providers or something in those lines which was a very strange response tbh, other exchanges and sportsbooks do get to do this manually but am wondering why this cant be done here  Cry. And contacting wallet providers was never going to help because this isn't fiat or PayPal were a charge back  is at the click of a button.

But I have made my peace because the writing is on the wall that i have lost these coins, but for my record will stick transaction id here for safe keeping to insure funds aren't spent without alerting me.

Not to be spent TX ( see you later my dinosaur 🦕)

https://opbnb.bscscan.com/tx/0x6503f2fceb047687c6f7ab209fe85ab2e58fc185d9d36c7794ca93f58578b5b7
Sorry about the bad experience. In most cases, when a platform does not support a certain chain, chances of getting back those funds are pretty low even when they have the private keys to the wallets. This is because it puts the other funds at risk (Private keys and seeds can easily get exposed/compromised, leading to unwanted hacks)

Maybe convincing them to support the network you deposited your coins could help in the future... you never know  Wink

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Maybe convincing them to support the network you deposited your coins could help in the future... you never know  Wink
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Betpanda have this request coin feature and I simply put in a request for this coin, so let's see how this goes..

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Maybe convincing them to support the network you deposited your coins could help in the future... you never know  Wink
Lol I beat you to this  Grin

Betpanda have this request coin feature and I simply put in a request for this coin, so let's see how this goes..
You never know what happen in the future.

When chipsgg came to me to run campaign here, I requested them to clear all of the issue here. Along with the accusation, there was another same issue as of you from ryzaadit and he got his fund recovered after 2 years.

Hope this gets resolved sooner.

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You never know what happen in the future.

When chipsgg came to me to run campaign here, I requested them to clear all of the issue here. Along with the accusation, there was another same issue as of you from ryzaadit and he got his fund recovered after 2 years.

Hope this gets resolved sooner.
Accusations can be invalid and invalid accusations in the past can become valid after new efforts from the company to reassess it for customers. If they value their reputation, reassess controversial cases is really important.

Bots, human assessements can be wrong sometimes and if there are enough proofs to resolve cases for users, to detect the company reputation, it's worth to do it for users first, and for the company reputation too.

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Actually the fault was yours - of course, but I see you admitting the mistake. The casino may have the right to refuse your request regarding the transaction - but it would probably be wiser if they resolved your problem manually. I've never come across a similar case before - but hopefully you can get your $111 back or at least they fund your account with the same amount.

I'm not sure you'll make it - but hopefully you get it back. My question to betpanda - is it possible to refund this or at least you fund that user's account with the same amount?
I don't have the knowledge to be the judge here, while BetPanda hasn't specified if they can actually gain access to these funds in any way, logfiles mentioned that they may have access but the risk of compromisation isn't worth it. Apart from that, I'm confident that Betpanda will eventually honor the request and deposit the money to Woodie's account, either in full, or at least partially, since it's his fault for mistaken deposit. Even if it's not their fault, it's good publicity to the casino, even though in reality they aren't required to honor it.

Anyway, we shall wait for an official response from Betpanda, till then, I wish Woodie good luck.

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February 23, 2025, 08:39:30 PM
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Actually the fault was yours - of course, but I see you admitting the mistake. The casino may have the right to refuse your request regarding the transaction - but it would probably be wiser if they resolved your problem manually. I've never come across a similar case before - but hopefully you can get your $111 back or at least they fund your account with the same amount.

I'm not sure you'll make it - but hopefully you get it back. My question to betpanda - is it possible to refund this or at least you fund that user's account with the same amount?
I don't have the knowledge to be the judge here, while BetPanda hasn't specified if they can actually gain access to these funds in any way, logfiles mentioned that they may have access but the risk of compromisation isn't worth it. Apart from that, I'm confident that Betpanda will eventually honor the request and deposit the money to Woodie's account, either in full, or at least partially, since it's his fault for mistaken deposit. Even if it's not their fault, it's good publicity to the casino, even though in reality they aren't required to honor it.

Anyway, we shall wait for an official response from Betpanda, till then, I wish Woodie good luck.
I don't think this is a big deal if already they confirmed that they can refund him then nothing to worry about, this is how trust are built and if course I know betpanda to be a reputable site that wouldn't jeopardize or toiled with their reputation over here. So, I believe something positive could likely happen and he will definitely get back his fun in full.

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February 23, 2025, 09:18:06 PM
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I don't think this is a big deal if already they confirmed that they can refund him then nothing to worry about, this is how trust are built and if course I know betpanda to be a reputable site that wouldn't jeopardize or toiled with their reputation over here. So, I believe something positive could likely happen and he will definitely get back his fun in full.
I agree with you, Betpanda is going to do something about it. I hope Woodie may get his money and Betpanda should definitely help to get his money. Let's wait for their official response as that will tell us what they have decided about the case. I personally believe they'll take a positive step and for they won't sacrifice their reputation on this forum.

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I don't have the knowledge to be the judge here, while BetPanda hasn't specified if they can actually gain access to these funds in any way, logfiles mentioned that they may have access but the risk of compromisation isn't worth it. Apart from that, I'm confident that Betpanda will eventually honor the request and deposit the money to Woodie's account, either in full, or at least partially, since it's his fault for mistaken deposit. Even if it's not their fault, it's good publicity to the casino, even though in reality they aren't required to honor it.

Anyway, we shall wait for an official response from Betpanda, till then, I wish Woodie good luck.
I don't think this case will be resolved publicly between the two parties - but it will be resolved privately behind the scenes. The answer from the betpanda representative previously reflected that there is a team that will handle this case - but since the user in question posted here, it is logical to give him support even though we cannot force anything on either side.

Yes - as I said before, good luck and the case can be resolved. We are not judges - but only observing the progress of the case.

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why is there such a high wagering requirement here? Isn't 1-2x wagering enough to prevent money laundering? What is the purpose of 10x here?
Since they mention this in their ToS, they cannot be blamed for this wagering if anyone gets lossess. 10x Wagering is really big without any bonus but it will prevent money laundering issues more strictly but this site may not be comfortable for short-time gamblers.

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I can go here for a short time to gamble or I can use this site to bet on a single match. Why do I have to wager 10x to withdraw the money after depositing funds? I don't accept any bonuses, so I think this wagering is too high.
If you think 10x wager is too much for you then just avoid this site for gamble and use another one which you think better. Since they have clearly stated this in the TOS, they are not responsible if anyone loses their capital to fulfill this wagering.

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February 23, 2025, 09:51:15 PM
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I don't have the knowledge to be the judge here, while BetPanda hasn't specified if they can actually gain access to these funds in any way, logfiles mentioned that they may have access but the risk of compromisation isn't worth it. Apart from that, I'm confident that Betpanda will eventually honor the request and deposit the money to Woodie's account, either in full, or at least partially, since it's his fault for mistaken deposit. Even if it's not their fault, it's good publicity to the casino, even though in reality they aren't required to honor it.

Anyway, we shall wait for an official response from Betpanda, till then, I wish Woodie good luck.
I don't think this case will be resolved publicly between the two parties - but it will be resolved privately behind the scenes. The answer from the betpanda representative previously reflected that there is a team that will handle this case - but since the user in question posted here, it is logical to give him support even though we cannot force anything on either side.

Yes - as I said before, good luck and the case can be resolved. We are not judges - but only observing the progress of the case.

It will just create public discussion towards that incident which is not actually helpful and opinions from people will not solve anything. Much better if he ask for updates from time to time to see if there's development regarding to that case.

Since the only thing to do by Betpanda is to support that network and his supposed to be lose funds will be created but usually it really takes time before that situation happens.

So lets really see if this situation will be fix since its good to see a casino is proactive for helping people towards this kind of issue.

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February 24, 2025, 07:34:09 AM
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I don't think this case will be resolved publicly between the two parties - but it will be resolved privately behind the scenes. The answer from the betpanda representative previously reflected that there is a team that will handle this case - but since the user in question posted here, it is logical to give him support even though we cannot force anything on either side.

Yes - as I said before, good luck and the case can be resolved. We are not judges - but only observing the progress of the case.
You're right, and it's actually quite logical to be solved in private. This isn't a scam accusation, nor is there any wrongdoing from Betpanda's side; it's a user's error. Thus, if it was going to be publicly solved, it could gain the wrong attention of people who haven't read the whole story and come up with their own close-minded conclusions. Hopefully this is going to be solved soon; otherwise, it's an expensive error on Woodie's part that he hopefully won't make again. Unfortunately, nowadays it's really easy to confuse the addresses and networks, etc.

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February 24, 2025, 06:17:01 PM
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Since the only thing to do by Betpanda is to support that network and his supposed to be lose funds will be created but usually it really takes time before that situation happens.

So lets really see if this situation will be fix since its good to see a casino is proactive for helping people towards this kind of issue.
Yes - it will take time for this issue to be resolved, but it does not have to be resolved publicly. Both parties can solved things out behind the scenes professionally - so I don't think we need to force the discussion to continue. There's a lot we've ignored - like, Liverpool's win 0-2 at the Etihad and who won bets on betpanda specifically for that game, right?

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You're right, and it's actually quite logical to be solved in private. This isn't a scam accusation, nor is there any wrongdoing from Betpanda's side; it's a user's error. Thus, if it was going to be publicly solved, it could gain the wrong attention of people who haven't read the whole story and come up with their own close-minded conclusions. Hopefully this is going to be solved soon; otherwise, it's an expensive error on Woodie's part that he hopefully won't make again. Unfortunately, nowadays it's really easy to confuse the addresses and networks, etc.
I hope so - this is pure user error for which the casino should not be responsible. But the better the casino resolves all user cases - the more positive impact can be expected.

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February 24, 2025, 08:11:09 PM
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why is there such a high wagering requirement here? Isn't 1-2x wagering enough to prevent money laundering? What is the purpose of 10x here?
Sorry but is this 10X based on a user getting a bonus or this is based on deposit , play, withdraw then you are required to first play through 10X Huh
Thought standard in this industry is pretty much around  1-2x as a counter measure to money laundering...



It will just create public discussion towards that incident which is not actually helpful and opinions from people will not solve anything. Much better if he ask for updates from time to time to see if there's development regarding to that case.
Let's just say as things stand, their response is that there is nothing they can do case closed..nothing more nothing less, but if they so happen to be around after 5years or 10years and coin support comes through maybe I can claim, but with deposit addresses changing for security purposes honestly don't have much hope.

So lets really see if this situation will be fix since its good to see a casino is proactive for helping people towards this kind of issue.
You never know, will see what happens.

Anyway, everyone out there my advice before depositing is remember to double check address and blockchain to avoid going through what has happened to me.

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Wagering of deposits is something we monitor closely and reevaluate when needed, but this condition was added for a reason.

However, this is all good feedback from the community and can bring change if echoed.
In that case, I would like to echo Leonair’s suggestion to lower the wagering requirement. I understand that you implemented it to combat money laundering and mitigate the risk of system abuse, but the standard is 1x, and 10x is too high in my humble opinion. I hope you will reconsider and lower it a bit more.

Sorry but is this 10X based on a user getting a bonus or this is based on deposit , play, withdraw then you are required to first play through 10X Huh
According to the ToS, the 10x wagering requirement applies to all deposits, even if you don’t claim any bonus.

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