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January 06, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
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Actually minersource are the official US distributor. Check their news archive. http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list
Anyway, they should be oppened and have all contact and business details there, at least...
However, I have applied for being official distributor at Black Arrow but do not seem that I will have what to sell  Angry
It will be too late because of difficulty, etc... we'll see!

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January 06, 2014, 11:05:22 AM
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How do I go about canceling mine I got in before the deadline for 2nd batch.  It was just one X-1 anyone now have way way more on the way.
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January 06, 2014, 11:30:22 AM
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WTF Huh!!!

I ordered 2013-12-15 and i'm in Batch 2 Round 1 Huh?

How com Huh Thant s*cks !!!
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January 06, 2014, 12:33:06 PM
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WTF Huh!!!

I ordered 2013-12-15 and i'm in Batch 2 Round 1 Huh?

How com Huh Thant s*cks !!!


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January 06, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
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I ordered with Minersource. And that's what it says on the orderpage:

## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1, all further orders are available...
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January 06, 2014, 12:50:44 PM
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I ordered with Minersource. And that's what it says on the orderpage:

## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1, all further orders are available...


If read the posts you will see it has been said MANY times that Batch 2 Round 1 is for orders being placed in 2014 Read the whole notice next time.

" This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1, all further orders are available for dispatch April 30th 2014. All pre-orders are guaranteed to be protected against any price decrease.

ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 "

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January 06, 2014, 12:56:30 PM
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OK. But I ordered in Dezember 2013! So it should be at least Batch 1!

And what's about post #1244 ?? I hope, thats' wrong ...
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January 06, 2014, 12:57:06 PM
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Hi BA.

Im wondering if you guys are planning on sending out some communication / update on the status.

Im order #12x and wondering what the feb deadline I was promised being pushed back to april will end up costing me money wise.. And what will you end up doing to compensate buyers?

Thanks.
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January 06, 2014, 01:10:08 PM
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 There are New X-3 photos on BA site,tried to post them here but not able.








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January 06, 2014, 01:13:43 PM
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Hi BA.

Im wondering if you guys are planning on sending out some communication / update on the status.

Im order #12x and wondering what the feb deadline I was promised being pushed back to april will end up costing me money wise.. And what will you end up doing to compensate buyers?

Thanks.

There is an update on the BA site and re-posted here,go back a few pages and read. Delivery dates for orders placed in 2013 are the same as when ordered.

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January 06, 2014, 01:19:28 PM
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There are New X-3 photos on BA site,tried to post them here but not able.

Wow, looks like it's powered by three jet engines, ready to suck you in and spit you out the back.

Cant wait.
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January 06, 2014, 01:19:44 PM
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There are New X-3 photos on BA site,tried to post them here but not able.

Well looks like they got the BFL curse of underestimating the power requirements and heat output.  

X-3 now comes in 2 cases? Wink


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January 06, 2014, 02:13:44 PM
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There are New X-3 photos on BA site,tried to post them here but not able.

Well looks like they got the BFL curse of underestimating the power requirements and heat output. 

X-3 now comes in 2 cases? Wink



It was said on description page that it consists of 2 units for quite some time on the website.

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There are New X-3 photos on BA site,tried to post them here but not able.

Well looks like they got the BFL curse of underestimating the power requirements and heat output.  

X-3 now comes in 2 cases? Wink



It was said on description page that it consists of 2 units for quite some time on the website.

Really? I cannot see it even now, it just says 2000GH/s.

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-3.html
"This would raise the speed up to 2560 Ghash/second but will increase the power dramatically which will not be supported by the supplied PSU.
 -2000 Ghash/second
 -Easy to use
 -Out of the box functionality
 -Low power per Gigahash
 -Compact design
 -Efficiency (including leakage): 0.6 W/Ghash/second
This is a PRE-ORDER (Batch 2), available for dispatch at end of April 2014"

It doesn't sound like their chips are going to be as efficient as they originally claimed.
Two cases for 2000GH/s makes me think it's going to be closer to 1W/GH!

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January 06, 2014, 02:55:06 PM
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Really? I cannot see it even now, it just says 2000GH/s.

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-3.html
"This would raise the speed up to 2560 Ghash/second but will increase the power dramatically which will not be supported by the supplied PSU.
 -2000 Ghash/second
 -Easy to use
 -Out of the box functionality
 -Low power per Gigahash
 -Compact design
 -Efficiency (including leakage): 0.6 W/Ghash/second
This is a PRE-ORDER (Batch 2), available for dispatch at end of April 2014"

It doesn't sound like their chips are going to be as efficient as they originally claimed.

It was there, but disappeared some time ago.

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January 06, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
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There are New X-3 photos on BA site,tried to post them here but not able.

Well looks like they got the BFL curse of underestimating the power requirements and heat output.  

X-3 now comes in 2 cases? Wink



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January 06, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
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Hi BA-Matt, Do you know if a form-factor has been agreed for how the X1's will ship yet (any enclosures/bare boards etc)? I want to know what sort of PSU you'll be using, and if it's a standard sort, could we optionally request that the units be be sent with no PSU? This will reduce the chance of problems getting them through customs, and the lower goods-value on the custom form would help with duties.  - To be clear: I'm not asking for a retrospective discount for No PSU, just not sending one, and deducting the cost of this from the custom declaration etc, if you see what I mean?
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January 06, 2014, 04:27:50 PM
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How can i verify that the BTC address sent by email,
corresponds to my order?

The BTC address is not listed on the order page, nor on the invoice.
I would expect it to see on the invoice,

if a payment is done in dollars, its shown on invoice.

Also people are not responding @black arrow.
Open tickets are changed of status, without any help.

Would like to pay,
the amount is not peanuts, little assistance would be kind...
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January 06, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
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It doesn't sound like their chips are going to be as efficient as they originally claimed.
Two cases for 2000GH/s makes me think it's going to be closer to 1W/GH!

They explain this on their website in their forums. 

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We have our final specs for the Minion. Based on our library (we can only simulate the TT corner which is 0.85v @ 25C) and the power consumption is 0.6-0.65W/Ghash. We trust that underclocked and underpowered the Minion will achieve under 0.5W/ghash as promised.
 
This is not as good as our first simulations which were based only on Front End but this is where we need to stop. The time does not allow us to continue our effort towards seeking a lower power consumption.
We had to drop the frequency from 1.5Ghz to 1.0Ghz in order to achieve this efficiency. However we've increased the number of cores so the Minion will hash at the speed promised.
We had met all the timings for 1.5Ghz but the efficiency was 0.8W/Ghash and this is not something we could have accepted.
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January 06, 2014, 05:05:31 PM
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We have our final specs for the Minion. Based on our library (we can only simulate the TT corner which is 0.85v @ 25C) and the power consumption is 0.6-0.65W/Ghash. We trust that underclocked and underpowered the Minion will achieve under 0.5W/ghash as promised.
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So roughly 800 watts per TH/s total system power. I'd much rather have 2x 800 watt boxes/power supplies than a single 1600 watt box/power supply.

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