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Author Topic: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts  (Read 1404102 times)
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March 21, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
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i see one deep plo table but would be better if it was 200bb good start tho
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March 21, 2014, 05:06:48 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?


http://s3.directupload.net/images/110227/a3d6f95v.gif

for you or the other guy???
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March 21, 2014, 05:23:56 PM
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Nice picture   Cheesy

Looks like the guy is working quite hard for that
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March 21, 2014, 06:35:20 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?




I think this means someone has an ax to grind.  Cute pic.  Maybe the guy has an axe to grinde against micone, dunno.
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March 21, 2014, 07:34:23 PM
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Lol nope was just asking a question, i personally love how seals is, because im used to it.
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March 21, 2014, 11:39:47 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?

I would say that is severely implausible for the following reasons:
1)  rigging the site in any way seems -EV long term.
2) "dramatic play scenarios" do not make poker more fun or produce more rake - in fact when you bust a player they no longer play - so if we were purely greedy, had 1000x Zuckerberg+ coders on meth ready to fire, and believed no one would ever notice, I supposed we'd deal everyone non-dramatic play scenarios as to keep everyone playing.  Of course this would be much harder to program / keep running / keep it consta-rigging than simply making a proper poker site.
3) I think it's clear to most that the way a site gets more rakes is to get more players.  That's always been my goal - to popularize the site and help make it super-fun to play.



Lol nope was just asking a question, i personally love how seals is, because im used to it.

There is a major logical fallacy in most users claiming highly complex rigging scenarios:  On one hand, they may say "that's the style of play I employ on this site, because, you know, it's rigged and shit, that type of stuff hits here" I have heard this paraphrased time and time again, when referring to live or online cardrooms, dealers, decks, shuffle-machines, you name it, I've heard a guy blame it for a losing hand of poker.

There is only 1 way to prove rigging:  science.   Every player can collect their own personal hole card data, flop data, and after 100k+ hands or so you can really see how close your distribution is to average.  You can see how many standard deviations off they are.   Hint:  A handful of independent entities have already done this. 

Outside of science terms, it's tough to argue "it's rigged for X's pleasure" debates.  We simply deal a fair game IMO.

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March 21, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
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♣ ♣ ♣ Serious MTT Soon ♣ ♣ ♣
in ~1.3 hrs there will be the

♣ ♣ ♣ Friday 4.20k GTD ♣ ♣ ♣

this overlay'd like a boss last week.  Over a bitcoin! 

While I would like to see my GTD's meet, the players would prolly take it either way - free coinage from SwC or a bigger prizepool.

190+10 is this one of our biggest buy-ins that we run each week.  Our best players show up for this one, as you can frequently bink off 1.5+ coins for 1st.  I want to get this one hot again, and if anyone has time, buy-in, or stack/structure feeback I'd like to hear it.  I'll be doing another round of MTT schedule changes soon, and I'm going to be messing with some structures, starting with our biggest and most serious MTTs like the Friday 4.2k GTD.

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March 21, 2014, 11:57:39 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?

I would say that is severely implausible for the following reasons:
1)  rigging the site in any way seems -EV long term.
2) "dramatic play scenarios" do not make poker more fun or produce more rake - in fact when you bust a player they no longer play - so if we were purely greedy, had 1000x Zuckerberg+ coders on meth ready to fire, and believed no one would ever notice, I supposed we'd deal everyone non-dramatic play scenarios as to keep everyone playing.  Of course this would be much harder to program / keep running / keep it consta-rigging than simply making a proper poker site.
3) I think it's clear to most that the way a site gets more rakes is to get more players.  That's always been my goal - to popularize the site and help make it super-fun to play.



Lol nope was just asking a question, i personally love how seals is, because im used to it.

There is a major logical fallacy in most users claiming highly complex rigging scenarios:  On one hand, they may say "that's the style of play I employ on this site, because, you know, it's rigged and shit, that type of stuff hits here" I have heard this paraphrased time and time again, when referring to live or online cardrooms, dealers, decks, shuffle-machines, you name it, I've heard a guy blame it for a losing hand of poker.

There is only 1 way to prove rigging:  science.   Every player can collect their own personal hole card data, flop data, and after 100k+ hands or so you can really see how close your distribution is to average.  You can see how many standard deviations off they are.   Hint:  A handful of independent entities have already done this. 

Outside of science terms, it's tough to argue "it's rigged for X's pleasure" debates.  We simply deal a fair game IMO.



Above and beyond answer, thank you
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March 22, 2014, 12:23:36 AM
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and if anyone has time, buy-in, or stack/structure feeback I'd like to hear it. 

Why not try out some higher buyin limit tournaments?  A 50 chip/500 gtd LHE or FLO8 would almost def not overlay, and get more people into non-nl games.

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March 22, 2014, 05:50:56 PM
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Unless they are only 1-tabling, people couldn't just bust a tourney and re-enter on another screenname unless they had an extra computer available.  In which case they could just sign up anyways.  ASll of you complaining about late registration should use your brain, it adds to prizepools and does zero to reduce your (perceived) edge.

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March 22, 2014, 06:53:48 PM
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I haven't been playing on SwC for a month

Should I jump in? Please someone tell me games are soft and tourneys have nice prizepool
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March 22, 2014, 06:56:50 PM
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I haven't been playing on SwC for a month

Should I jump in? Please someone tell me games are soft and tourneys have nice prizepool

games are soft, prizepools are shitty

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March 22, 2014, 07:19:49 PM
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Hello.
I'm a poker player but I don't have money.
I want to play in a free tournament.
The problem is that I need the password to register...
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March 22, 2014, 07:25:13 PM
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Hello.
I'm a poker player but I don't have money.
I want to play in a free tournament.
The problem is that I need the password to register...

you prob cant play then, what tourney?
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March 22, 2014, 07:29:14 PM
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In any tournament hold'em.
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March 22, 2014, 07:33:57 PM
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Hello.
I'm a poker player but I don't have money.
I want to play in a free tournament.
The problem is that I need the password to register...

Get some BTC then play Smiley

Can't you play for free without a password?
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March 22, 2014, 07:35:15 PM
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Can't you play for free without a password?

I don't play.
I need a password.





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March 22, 2014, 07:56:18 PM
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Can't you play for free without a password?

I don't play.
I need a password.







What you need is a job.

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March 22, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
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What you need is a job.


Excuse me ?
I don't understand.
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March 22, 2014, 08:04:54 PM
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If you don't have btc to play buy or win some

If you don't have fiat to buy the btc, get a job

If you can't get a job, think what you can do to get some fiat
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