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[Hhampuz]

Lol.. "Follow laws and rules - I'll take you to court if I have to" > "well actually I don't want to to give you kyc because you are offshore and blah blah"

Jesus christ man.

What are you talking about dude? I never said such a thing. All I said was that in similar cases like mine where someone HAS taken a case like this to court, the judge always ruled in their favor. I did not make this up either, LEVSKI7 has shared many examples where this happened. That's all I said.

I'm sure you're wouldn't want to KYC or give out your ID to ANY offshore companies either for any reason when there is no need for it and it can be easily avoided.

What do you mean exactly with "It can be easily avoided"?

I don't give a fuck to be honest about KYC if I use a service that gives me money > ESPECIALLY when I want them to do something ludicrous like.. paying for a bet that was canceled.

[EpicChamp]

Lol.. "Follow laws and rules - I'll take you to court if I have to" > "well actually I don't want to to give you kyc because you are offshore and blah blah"

Jesus christ man.

What are you talking about dude? I never said such a thing. All I said was that in similar cases like mine where someone HAS taken a case like this to court, the judge always ruled in their favor. I did not make this up either, LEVSKI7 has shared many examples where this happened. That's all I said.

I'm sure you're wouldn't want to KYC or give out your ID to ANY offshore companies either for any reason when there is no need for it and it can be easily avoided.

What do you mean exactly with "It can be easily avoided"?

I don't give a fuck to be honest about KYC if I use a service that gives me money > ESPECIALLY when I want them to do something ludicrous like.. paying for a bet that was canceled.

Just because you don't value your privacy or value money more than your privacy doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same.

All I ask is that FJ respects my privacy and we resolve this without me having to send them my personal information (which I never share with anyone online and is a very fair request).

It can be easily avoided because any other bet you place and win for virtually any amount you can always withdraw without KYC (esp for crypto gambling sites and if the amount is under $50k), so I don't see why this should be any different.

[Hhampuz]

Lol.. "Follow laws and rules - I'll take you to court if I have to" > "well actually I don't want to to give you kyc because you are offshore and blah blah"

Jesus christ man.

What are you talking about dude? I never said such a thing. All I said was that in similar cases like mine where someone HAS taken a case like this to court, the judge always ruled in their favor. I did not make this up either, LEVSKI7 has shared many examples where this happened. That's all I said.

I'm sure you're wouldn't want to KYC or give out your ID to ANY offshore companies either for any reason when there is no need for it and it can be easily avoided.

What do you mean exactly with "It can be easily avoided"?

I don't give a fuck to be honest about KYC if I use a service that gives me money > ESPECIALLY when I want them to do something ludicrous like.. paying for a bet that was canceled.

Just because you don't value your privacy or value money more than your privacy doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same.

All I ask is that FJ respects my privacy and we resolve this without me having to send them my personal information (which I never share with anyone online).

It can be easily avoided because any other bet you place and win you can withdraw without KYC (esp if it's anything under 50k), so I don't see why this should be any different.

If you want to value your privacy, you probably shouldn't use services where money is involved and the need for KYC is a likely outcome.

[EpicChamp]

Lol.. "Follow laws and rules - I'll take you to court if I have to" > "well actually I don't want to to give you kyc because you are offshore and blah blah"

Jesus christ man.

What are you talking about dude? I never said such a thing. All I said was that in similar cases like mine where someone HAS taken a case like this to court, the judge always ruled in their favor. I did not make this up either, LEVSKI7 has shared many examples where this happened. That's all I said.

I'm sure you're wouldn't want to KYC or give out your ID to ANY offshore companies either for any reason when there is no need for it and it can be easily avoided.

What do you mean exactly with "It can be easily avoided"?

I don't give a fuck to be honest about KYC if I use a service that gives me money > ESPECIALLY when I want them to do something ludicrous like.. paying for a bet that was canceled.

Just because you don't value your privacy or value money more than your privacy doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same.

All I ask is that FJ respects my privacy and we resolve this without me having to send them my personal information (which I never share with anyone online).

It can be easily avoided because any other bet you place and win you can withdraw without KYC (esp if it's anything under 50k), so I don't see why this should be any different.

If you want to value your privacy, you probably shouldn't use services where money is involved and the need for KYC is a likely outcome.

Please don't give me advice on what to do or what not to do with my money.

Plenty of people use crypto gambling sites (instead of fiat ones) specifically because they don't have to go through KYC if they ever want to withdraw any amount after winning a bet in BTC (or other currencies), and I know for a fact people are able to easily withdraw 0.2 BTC or more from FJ without having to do any KYC, so my request is very fair and is not too much to ask for a relatively small amount (in retrospect to wanting to withdraw 1BTC+ at current rates).

Anyways, you made it very clear that you personally don't agree with me and that's fine - you can have your own opinion. But the majority of people agree with me and I appreciate FJ for willing to cooperate with me on this situation.

Please stop spamming this thread for no reason and if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything.

Thanks!

[LEVSKI7]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/punter-wins-again-after-suing-7549724
again for a tennis bet

[LEVSKI7]

https://sbcnews.co.uk/social-responsibility/2021/02/01/entain-launches-consumer-representation-initiative-the-players-panel/
A further 73% are concerned about their privacy rights with regards to data sharing when participating in gambling activities, although 69% agreed that playing the lottery is a form of gambling, suggesting consumer support for the government’s decision to raise the age limit for playing the National Lottery.

[shield132]

Lol.. "Follow laws and rules - I'll take you to court if I have to" > "well actually I don't want to to give you kyc because you are offshore and blah blah"

Jesus christ man.

Their office is located in Tbilisi, Georgia and they have an amazing team, I disagree with the statement above that this casino is offshore, untrustworthy, etc. I have been in touch with some of their team members years ago and know them in real life but it doesn't matter right now. It's sad but some good people left FJ recently and moved in a different casino that's again Georgian but not crypto oriented.

Okay, I love FJ and there are a lot of reasons but I disagree with them in this case, finally, community think that EpicChamp is right. But now they ask for KYC and saying: Hey boy, send me your KYC and I'll tell you my final decision later. There are moments when KYC documents are requested, for example when it comes to suspicious money/account activity but why in this case?

And why do you protect FJ so strongly? In every sentence?

[Hhampuz]

And why do you protect FJ so strongly? In every sentence?

Because the claim from EpicChamp is incredibly ludicrous.

[LEVSKI7]

Is this casino connected to the site efbet = is a person from Bulgaria the owner

[serjent05]

^It seems random, the good old "free" 5mBTC but you have to wager 40x, deposit 5mBTC and then wager 1x.
I think this kind of bonus is just for lol because wagering requirement 41x on slots is extremely difficult
No luck for me this time, but I like this bonus a lot!

I also received this 5mbtc bonus with the same requirements a few months ago.  I agree that the 40x requirement is quite steep but it is not impossible to meet.  I am able to meet the requirement of 40x wagering by simply playing across the slots available for that bonus.  Probably I just got lucky that time.

[EpicChamp]

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

[FortuneJack]

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

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Despite having a huge respect to you, we cannot finalize the decision due to sensitivity of the case without going through the KYC.

Please kindly accept the request so we can move this forward.


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Team FJ

[EpicChamp]

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

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Despite having a huge respect to you, we cannot finalize the decision due to sensitivity of the case without going through the KYC.

Please kindly accept the request so we can move this forward.


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Team FJ

What exactly is the point of me having to do KYC? What benefit does it bring to you at all?

Have I done anything illegal or suspicious to have to go through KYC?

I really don't understand the reason for it or see the need to do this (as do other members here), and would greatly appreciate it if you can respect my privacy and that we solve this without me having to do KYC or share my personal information. To me that is the most important thing.

It is also the primary reason I am using a crypto gambling site to bet with instead of a regular fiat one, so that I do not have to do KYC if I want to withdraw any bet. And I'm sure you've allowed thousands of users on your site to withdraw much larger amounts than mine without the need for KYC.

So kindly respect my privacy and I look forward to resolving this case the regular way soon.

Thanks!

[posi]

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

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Despite having a huge respect to you, we cannot finalize the decision due to sensitivity of the case without going through the KYC.

Please kindly accept the request so we can move this forward.


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Team FJ

What kind of "sensitivity" are you referring to exactly?

And have I done anything illegal or suspicious to have to go through KYC?

I really do not see the need for this (as do other members here), and would greatly appreciate it if you can respect my prvicy and that solve this without having to do KYC.

It is the primary reason I am using a crypto gambling site to bet with instead of a regular fiat one, so that I do not have to do KYC if I want to withdraw any bet.

Kindly respect my decision and I look forward to resolving this the regular way soon.

Thanks!

Firstly, I vouch the company will solve the issue and the best to move forward with your issue is not about the company respecting your decision because every gambling site has its own rules and regulations. Besides, they can not operate outside the laws of their Master's licensed holder and regulated company.

[EpicChamp]

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

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Despite having a huge respect to you, we cannot finalize the decision due to sensitivity of the case without going through the KYC.

Please kindly accept the request so we can move this forward.


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Team FJ

What kind of "sensitivity" are you referring to exactly?

And have I done anything illegal or suspicious to have to go through KYC?

I really do not see the need for this (as do other members here), and would greatly appreciate it if you can respect my prvicy and that solve this without having to do KYC.

It is the primary reason I am using a crypto gambling site to bet with instead of a regular fiat one, so that I do not have to do KYC if I want to withdraw any bet.

Kindly respect my decision and I look forward to resolving this the regular way soon.

Thanks!

Firstly, I vouch the company will solve the issue and the best to move forward with your issue is not about the company respecting your decision because every gambling site has its own rules and regulations. Besides, they can not operate outside the laws of their Master's licensed holder and regulated company.

There are so many cases where people won much greater bets than mine and were able to withdraw their funds without having to do KYC.

So why is it fair to me to have to send them my personal information for a much smaller amount when most people don't?

There is really no need to overcomplicate this situation when it can be easily solved in a simple manner.

[FortuneJack]

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

-
Despite having a huge respect to you, we cannot finalize the decision due to sensitivity of the case without going through the KYC.

Please kindly accept the request so we can move this forward.


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Team FJ

What kind of "sensitivity" are you referring to exactly?

And have I done anything illegal or suspicious to have to go through KYC?

I really do not see the need for this (as do other members here), and would greatly appreciate it if you can respect my prvicy and that solve this without having to do KYC.

It is the primary reason I am using a crypto gambling site to bet with instead of a regular fiat one, so that I do not have to do KYC if I want to withdraw any bet.

Kindly respect my decision and I look forward to resolving this the regular way soon.

Thanks!

Firstly, I vouch the company will solve the issue and the best to move forward with your issue is not about the company respecting your decision because every gambling site has its own rules and regulations. Besides, they can not operate outside the laws of their Master's licensed holder and regulated company.

There are so many cases where people won much greater bets than mine and were able to withdraw their funds without having to do KYC.

So why is it fair to me to have to send them my personal information for a much smaller amount when most people don't?

There is really no need to overcomplicate this situation when it can be easily solved in a simple manner.

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As described earlier, the complexity of the case requires us as a company to get the KYC done.

You should have already received the email regarding the details we need from your end, let us know once you will be in.

If not, we will not be able to change a situation to a noticeable degree

[EpicChamp]

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

-
Despite having a huge respect to you, we cannot finalize the decision due to sensitivity of the case without going through the KYC.

Please kindly accept the request so we can move this forward.


-
Team FJ

What kind of "sensitivity" are you referring to exactly?

And have I done anything illegal or suspicious to have to go through KYC?

I really do not see the need for this (as do other members here), and would greatly appreciate it if you can respect my prvicy and that solve this without having to do KYC.

It is the primary reason I am using a crypto gambling site to bet with instead of a regular fiat one, so that I do not have to do KYC if I want to withdraw any bet.

Kindly respect my decision and I look forward to resolving this the regular way soon.

Thanks!

Firstly, I vouch the company will solve the issue and the best to move forward with your issue is not about the company respecting your decision because every gambling site has its own rules and regulations. Besides, they can not operate outside the laws of their Master's licensed holder and regulated company.

There are so many cases where people won much greater bets than mine and were able to withdraw their funds without having to do KYC.

So why is it fair to me to have to send them my personal information for a much smaller amount when most people don't?

There is really no need to overcomplicate this situation when it can be easily solved in a simple manner.

-
As described earlier, the complexity of the case requires us as a company to get the KYC done.

You should have already received the email regarding the details we need from your end, let us know once you will be in.

If not, we will not be able to change a situation to a noticeable degree

To me this situation is very simple.

The only reason to you it might look "complex", is because you decided to make it complex by canceling my bet (when it shouldn't have been done in the 1st place) when the match was played perfectly fine from start to finish without any delays, retirements, or disqualifications. The most simple thing would have been to keep it open and if the player I bet on won then I would have won the bet, and if he had lost then I would have lost it (as is always the case) and I would have 100% accepted it as such + moved on a long time ago.

But since you decided to wrongly cancel my bet and make this whole situation more "complex", I should not be the one who has to suffer or get penalized for what happened by being forced to share my personal + private information, which to me is extremely important, confidential, "sensitive", and is not something I am comfortable or willing to share with any gambling site online. It is not fair to force me to do something like this when all of this could have easily been avoided in the 1st place.

Plus, you seeing or knowing who I am or where I live or any other information you want isn't going to make any difference about the morality or the appropriate next steps for this situation. Because it's not about me, who I am or where I live - it's about what happened in this situation and doing the right thing which most members on here agree with me as well.

So I ask you to kindly respect my privacy and that we solve this over live chat or email without the need for any KYC.

Thanks in advance!

(After all, you're a crypto gambling site and allow other users to easily cash out even greater amounts without having to do KYC - so I think it's only fair that I can do so as well.

And at the end of the day, that's the whole point of using bitcoin to begin with and why I chose to bet on your site instead of a regular fiat bookie. Going against that is ironic and defeats the whole purpose of using bitcoins to make online purchases or transactions with others from anywhere in the world & without any documentation)

[notblox1]

^  Fortunejack admitted their mistake and they are willing to pay you what you want if you submit KYC, and when you signed up on their website you knew this could happen at any time if you spent few minutes to read their terms and conditions: https://fortunejack.com/faq/terms_and_conditions
It's their website and you agreed with their rules when you signed up.

I am all for keeping privacy but in this case they gave you the option and you have the choice to accept or refuse it, and writing many words won't help you much.
Option 1: submit kyc and get your stake back
Option 2: don't submit kyc and get nothing back.

I will update my feedback accordingly.

[cryptofrka]

I also agree KYC is something that can be requested at any point.

Nobody likes it, we all try to avoid it, but ultimately every time I deposit funds somewhere I know I might have to do KYC in order to withdraw. That is clearly stated in the rules.

Even if it is a tactical move from FJ, it is one that I feel needs to be accepted by the betting party in order for this case to be closed.

[EpicChamp]

I can honestly tell you guys that I genuinely wasn't aware that I'd ever need to do KYC on FortuneJack when I signed up, considering that they're a crypto gambling site, unless the issue had something to do with a massive amount (of $50k+) or that they suspected that I did something illegal/suspicious (or something along those lines).

This is honestly a regular case and this whole mess could have easily been avoided had they not canceled my bet to begin with - that's all I'm trying to say. There was no match-fixing involved in this match and I did not do anything suspicious here for them to pressure me to submit KYC.

And if it was in the rules when signing up, then I sincerely apologize for not going through that section or being aware of it - but I can promise you that I did not know about that at the time or else I wouldn't have signed up in the first place or placed any bets with FortuneJack.

So if FortuneJack can kindly let it go this time & solve this case without the need for KYC, and use this situation as a warning for next time something like this happens I'll need to submit KYC - I would greatly appreciate it. And if something like this does happen next time, I can promise I'll be prepared for it and would have no issues submitting KYC if requested.

But for the time being, all I ask is that you kindly respect my privacy and solve this the normal way without having to make it so complicated or go through this entire process.

Thank you very much!

(Many members here also agree with me that doing KYC in this situation should not be mandatory and that this situation can be resolved without that)