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[donk4u]

You guys need to post HHs when you are accusing people of collusion.  Bumhunting =/= collusion.  I'm not saying that it's not happening, I'm just saying that your proof is inconclusive.

I don't really care enough to collect evidence, which would involve playing against cheaters.  My preference is just not to play against cheaters, so I won't.  If you want to, go right ahead.

I was a dedicated Omaha ring player until the rampant collusion was discovered last year. I stopped playing ring altogether for months. I started playing a few months ago and everything was fine until 2 months ago or so with the never ending new names and then  being bumhunted at  ridiculous rate by 4 people constantly changing names every time I opened multiple tables. I haven't noticed 4 people with new names sitting every session until very recently .  I am going to vote with my feet and stop playing ring again it looks like  as having groups of people bumhunt you with never changing names is not my idea of  a  fun time or a  level playing field.

[notserp]

Shrug, I guess people are just going to see what they want to see and no amount of reasoned discussion will convince them otherwise.  All I'm asking for is some small amount of proof before you go accusing everyone who sits you of cheating.  

People according to your are bumhunting efficiently when they join micro stakes  4 new names at a time with different names across different sessions. Ok on ignore for real this time.

Without any evidence of anything else, how can you draw any other conclusions?

i got refunded 2 or 3 times the past year for collusion but i have never reported anything

[donk4u]

Nah I was bluffing not ready to stop playing ring yet but very annoying nonetheless all the name changes and constant bumhunting.  Had 3 tables running insta broke when I left, playing in one earlier opened table 2 new players sat  down I left after few hands and guess what game broke.

[PangaeaCrypto]

Just starting my career on seals


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[geoffreyqp]

i haven't played here in awhile.

is this still the safest btc site?
how fast are the withdrawals currently?

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i haven't played here in awhile.

is this still the safest btc site?
how fast are the withdrawals currently?

This is still probably the only site where you'll have enough players to actually play a game of poker. Trust wise it's fine and withdrawals are still going out on time as far as I know.

[wwwin]

i haven't played here in awhile.

is this still the safest btc site?
how fast are the withdrawals currently?

average they say is 12 hours...last 2 that I made were 14 hours and 2 hours.

[donk4u]

Nah I was bluffing not ready to stop playing ring yet but very annoying nonetheless all the name changes and constant bumhunting.  Had 3 tables running insta broke when I left, playing in one earlier opened table 2 new players sat  down I left after few hands and guess what game broke.

I have a feeling I know who was 4 sitting me based on table talk .

[tspacepilot]

What does 'bumhunting' and 'sitting someone' mean?  Sorry I don't know all the technical lingo.

[curtl]

What does 'bumhunting' and 'sitting someone' mean?  Sorry I don't know all the technical lingo.

Apparently he thinks that when he sits at a table a group of people join him, presumably colluding to take his money. 

I've seen pretty odd behavior at times when I've played PLO.  People are raising and reraising every hand preflop, then when I see what they've raised with, it makes no sense, unless they are trying to get a sucker into the pot, essentially playing against 3 or 4 other people.  Chances are that one of the others is going to win, and if they are colluding, share the coins at the end of the session.

[darkmule]

What does 'bumhunting' and 'sitting someone' mean?  Sorry I don't know all the technical lingo.

"Bumhunting" is a completely legitimate poker strategy.  It basically means you're lurking watching tables waiting for someone you know to be a loser to join the table so you can pick a seat with a favorable position to them (usually acting after them), and then basically hustle them.  One method I call the "ant-lion" strategy is the guy who sits at every imaginable heads-up table waiting for someone to join and then takes their money.

The "bumhunting" strategy here, though, would be just waiting for someone to start a table and then joining.

The people who do this are quite often very good players who are looking for suckers.  (Sometimes they just think they are and the "bum" they are hunting is nothing of the sort.)

However, this is not what people are complaining about. 

It is particularly that when a collusion operation is going on, the perps all instantly join any time someone starts a table, they are always new IDs nobody has ever seen before, and the table instantly breaks the moment the one real player parts.  It isn't speculation that this has happened on Seals.  Seals has more than once refunded players when colluders get caught, and the main game where this has occurred on Seals is PLO.

This has nothing to do with the integrity of Seals, and anyone who has played online has seen similar behavior even on the big sites like Stars.  The difference is that Seals is a pretty small site, so it is more glaringly obvious when it does occur.  On Stars, if you saw something weird, you could generally just jump to another table (after reporting it if you were sure).  There were lots of tables.

On Seals, it really only takes a few bad apples to ruin a game where there are usually only one or two tables.

[donk4u]

What does 'bumhunting' and 'sitting someone' mean?  Sorry I don't know all the technical lingo.

"Bumhunting" is a completely legitimate poker strategy.  It basically means you're lurking watching tables waiting for someone you know to be a loser to join the table so you can pick a seat with a favorable position to them (usually acting after them), and then basically hustle them.  One method I call the "ant-lion" strategy is the guy who sits at every imaginable heads-up table waiting for someone to join and then takes their money.

The "bumhunting" strategy here, though, would be just waiting for someone to start a table and then joining.

The people who do this are quite often very good players who are looking for suckers.  (Sometimes they just think they are and the "bum" they are hunting is nothing of the sort.)

However, this is not what people are complaining about. 

It is particularly that when a collusion operation is going on, the perps all instantly join any time someone starts a table, they are always new IDs nobody has ever seen before, and the table instantly breaks the moment the one real player parts.  It isn't speculation that this has happened on Seals.  Seals has more than once refunded players when colluders get caught, and the main game where this has occurred on Seals is PLO.

This has nothing to do with the integrity of Seals, and anyone who has played online has seen similar behavior even on the big sites like Stars.  The difference is that Seals is a pretty small site, so it is more glaringly obvious when it does occur.  On Stars, if you saw something weird, you could generally just jump to another table (after reporting it if you were sure).  There were lots of tables.

On Seals, it really only takes a few bad apples to ruin a game where there are usually only one or two tables.


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tyvm for this.  We *really* need a twitter-bot that auto-tweets this stuff.  get that on the bottom of the dev task list  

[notserp]

what is the juno wallet freeroll?

[donk4u]

what is the juno wallet freeroll?

freeroll for jews ju kno?

[omahapoker]

I saw a post of yours on reddit. im just posting my comment.

lulz. I secretly love dogecoin. "the worthless coin" and ability to "ball out" with lots of a digital currency that looks similar to bitcoin.
It really is an awesome thing, and I further think that it will be around for a long time and likely dive to extremely low values but never 0 unless major network failure [even then ppl will resurrect IMO, maybe different dogeinaires but same lolz style coin]
Ripple is just a scam or at best a misguided attempt.
That being said, SwC will never deal in anything but btc obv
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[–]omaha2pac 1 point 61 milliseconds ago
you should add a few other coins. have DOGE poker tables. the coins so cheap people will play just to have fun. then when they want to play with the sharks they will move up to BTC. if you just added DOGE i bet i could get 500 people there. have a 100,000 DOGE coin tourney every day. do a million DOGE coin tourny on sundays.




so many people have DOGE lying around. i found 20,000 DOGE in my sofa the other day

[SLAPMODE]

I saw a post of yours on reddit. im just posting my comment.

lulz. I secretly love dogecoin. "the worthless coin" and ability to "ball out" with lots of a digital currency that looks similar to bitcoin.
It really is an awesome thing, and I further think that it will be around for a long time and likely dive to extremely low values but never 0 unless major network failure [even then ppl will resurrect IMO, maybe different dogeinaires but same lolz style coin]
Ripple is just a scam or at best a misguided attempt.
That being said, SwC will never deal in anything but btc obv
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[–]omaha2pac 1 point 61 milliseconds ago
you should add a few other coins. have DOGE poker tables. the coins so cheap people will play just to have fun. then when they want to play with the sharks they will move up to BTC. if you just added DOGE i bet i could get 500 people there. have a 100,000 DOGE coin tourney every day. do a million DOGE coin tourny on sundays.




so many people have DOGE lying around. i found 20,000 DOGE in my sofa the other day

WHY NOT DEVCOIN OR SOME EVEN MORE WORTHLESS COIN THAN DOGEshit?...using that reasoning?lulz =)

[omahapoker]

thats fine. it's play money. the point is get the people there and all will follow.


I could see it now. seals is the first online poker site to have a million coin tournament. 

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ST6 informed me we have to reboot the server ASAP.

Should happen in a few minutes and will last ~20 minutes.

MTT players may notice their blinds are not increasing.  System will award ICM prizes.  Please email support with any issues.  

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