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Its up to the site how to reward dedicated raking players in the end . Rewarding those that raked at 5 dollars a bitcoin more heavily while basically not rewarding those raking at todays bitcoin prices at the same rate seems unfair to me.
Dude, what are you talking about? I paid dozens of bitcoins in rake, and those coins are now worth tens of thousands of dollars. I gave seals tons of action when the player base was way lower. There are several other players like me who would literally build ring games out of nothing and played in tough spots constantly just because we liked the site and the whole concept of bitcoin poker. 150 Krill freeroll is our just due. The amount you can win in your lower tier freerolls is likely proportional to the amount of coin you paid in rake. Dont hate man, be glad we helped make seals a success and be happy you can play poker online. Half the time I totally space on the big freeroll anyway, as Im not on seals much these days.
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donk4u
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January 05, 2014, 01:25:22 PM Last edit: January 05, 2014, 01:43:09 PM by donk4u |
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You got your krill when you were getting 1000 chips per 5 dollars while im getting 1000 chips at 800 dollars your being way overcompensated at the expense of people krillling now its simple. Sound pretty self entitled to me. You are no better then the dedicated site players krilling for the site now though you sure feel self entitled in getting as much krill for one krill roll as players are getting for all krillrolls combined.
Your dozens of bitcoin in rake were at 5 dollars a bitcoin not the 800 plus it is today. You are being way overcompensated at the expense of players who didn't start when you did and are just as dedicated today as you were when the price of paying dozens of bitcoins in rake was nominal but your reaping todays prices. Give me a break. Any way you slice it site is over rewarding you over the expense of other dedicated players paying way more rake then you did at todays bitcoin prices . The site would get way more benefit from people krilling or raking to reach more krillrolls if they were provided by the site then grandfathering and giving all the money to a lot of players who don't even play anymore but show up for the krill roll and cash out.
While I agree you should be compensated you shouldn't be getting as much in one krillroll almost as players are getting in all the krillrolls combined.
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January 05, 2014, 02:58:02 PM |
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also you should have MTTwhere the pay out goes deep.like top 40%
just have small payoutfor 10%-40%
when a person plays and even if he didnt do good and still got in the money, it makes them feel good and they stick around.
then have micro low MTT rebuys. keep people playing.when i gamble i play the same if i had 1 chip or 200 chips.
remember what they said in new jack city. the first hit is for free......BTCBTC
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January 05, 2014, 11:43:51 PM |
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I have no problem with the 150k freeroll. But as much as I hate to agree with Donk4u, I do think the recent rise has broken the krill system in some way. I haven't done the exact calculations, and its complicated by that square root thing, but I assume I'm paying much more rake in dollar value per krill earned now, compared to just a few months ago. I'm 2000 krill short of 50K, and I used to be able to get that in just a few days play. Now it will take many weeks. And its not so much the freeroll, but moving up in rakeback waves are much harder now. I'd play higher, but not enough games run. Anyway, I do love the site and want to see it grow. I'll stop complaining now. 
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January 06, 2014, 02:19:25 AM Last edit: January 06, 2014, 02:31:52 AM by accord01 |
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I don't get it. Don't you guys think heads up rake up to 4 chips (or almost $4) is a joke? All other sites a 50c max...
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January 06, 2014, 03:13:14 AM |
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Table starter rakeback apply to hu tables?
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DontCallMeShirley
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January 06, 2014, 07:50:47 AM |
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Site has an anonymous owner and he expects "transparency." lol
Poster is a random unknown with 20 activity and expects anyone here will give a shit. lol Why you trollin? You don't have any idea what I "expect." Do you even play on seals anymore?
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donk4u
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January 06, 2014, 04:56:59 PM |
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Love the addition of the 25k krill would like to see a couple of more. 50k to 150k is ridiculous as well as fact that 150k krillers got there for the most part when it was 5 dollars a bitcoin. More money thru rake for the site everyone wins.
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cAPSLOCK
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January 06, 2014, 05:21:32 PM |
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Site has an anonymous owner and he expects "transparency." lol
Poster is a random unknown with 20 activity and expects anyone here will give a shit. lol Why you trollin? You don't have any idea what I "expect." Do you even play on seals anymore? Why am *I* trolling? trolollolol. Yes. I play on Seals often.
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January 06, 2014, 06:51:31 PM |
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Table starter rakeback apply to hu tables?
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Micon
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January 06, 2014, 07:44:24 PM |
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I think it's best to say that the krill system is designed to be gamed - we want our players to figure out how to earn the most for the least effort. Then we will change the rules a bit. This is supposed to be a free bonus for having been our customer for a while. It's a totally new system that Freemoney dreamed up a few years ago. I first thought it was horrible and demanded it be scrapped, but then over time I see it's brilliance. Hang with us, after we upgrade our shit, I can promise you I am going to get sick with the krill program. Many ways to earn and reap the rewards. I think the krill-rolls will always be the centerpiece of the system, and I agree they may need balancing as time goes on. We may have huge krill-earning promotions in the future (imagine doubling your krill after winning some month-long promotion) The program is going to continue to stay very interesting.
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January 06, 2014, 08:00:24 PM |
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I think it's best to say that the krill system is designed to be gamed - we want our players to figure out how to earn the most for the least effort. Then we will change the rules a bit. This is supposed to be a free bonus for having been our customer for a while. It's a totally new system that Freemoney dreamed up a few years ago. I first thought it was horrible and demanded it be scrapped, but then over time I see it's brilliance. Hang with us, after we upgrade our shit, I can promise you I am going to get sick with the krill program. Many ways to earn and reap the rewards. I think the krill-rolls will always be the centerpiece of the system, and I agree they may need balancing as time goes on. We may have huge krill-earning promotions in the future (imagine doubling your krill after winning some month-long promotion) The program is going to continue to stay very interesting.
I think it's worth mentioning that though I hear new players complaining it is not fair that it is harder for them to climb up the krill ladder than the older players. Those old players helped found the site by playing when there were only 20 of us on at peak times. The reward system should likely be always monitored and tweaked as needed, but I don't think it is out of line at all for the old timers to have a bit of honor. BTW Micon, I have taken down two local tournaments while repping seals since your show of kindness. I know some of my area poker buddies are coming now...
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donk4u
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January 06, 2014, 08:57:45 PM |
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I agree old players should be rewarded just not be given half the amount of all the krillrolls. Hopefully something a little more balanced will be rolled out with more krill levels added. I love the seals .
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January 06, 2014, 09:43:15 PM |
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Mikon,can you consider to add/ 20chips 1BTC Guar deep/ on Saturday or Sunday at 4 pm.Run it 4 weeks and see if it catch up,It should help to expand peek hours that day and give players with smaller bankroll some tourney to look for.I don't think it will have much overlay if any,as a matter of fact I am willing to put up 1 BTC to help cover your looses if I am wrong.
Done. Sunday 4pm ET, you better be there. No it isn't .I believe on Seals deep mean 3000 starting chips .I do understand the logic,since the /Saturday 100 chips 5000 guar./ has the same structure, but but that is not what I asked for.On most poker sites 1500 stating chips is used for SNGs or rebuy tourneys.But I take it since 20 chips is $4. Can you now reconsider and make the tourney deep as I originally ask for?I believe it deserve it.
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donk4u
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January 06, 2014, 09:52:24 PM |
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Mikon,can you consider to add/ 20chips 1BTC Guar deep/ on Saturday or Sunday at 4 pm.Run it 4 weeks and see if it catch up,It should help to expand peek hours that day and give players with smaller bankroll some tourney to look for.I don't think it will have much overlay if any,as a matter of fact I am willing to put up 1 BTC to help cover your looses if I am wrong.
Done. Sunday 4pm ET, you better be there. No it isn't .I believe on Seals deep mean 3000 starting chips .I do understand the logic,since the /Saturday 100 chips 5000 guar./ has the same structure, but but that is not what I asked for.On most poker sites 1500 stating chips is used for SNGs or rebuy tourneys.But I take it since 20 chips is $4. Can you now reconsider and make the tourney deep as I originally ask for?I believe it deserve it. I requested sat 500 10 chip and sunday 20 chip 1k be deepstack as well as sat slower structure . Damn if I didn't miss the 20 chip thought I signe dup but didn't. Would be great to have changes for this weekends guaranteeds and much appreciated by the players.
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January 07, 2014, 01:33:19 PM |
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Krill should be reset every month so that it will be fair for new players and for the site to earn more.
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January 07, 2014, 02:02:07 PM |
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Krill should be reset every month so that it will be fair for new players and for the site to earn more.
I don't think it needs to go that far. The only thing I find unfair for new players is that an older player might have grinded for 500 hours and get 50,000 krill, while a new player can grind for 500 hours at the same effective stakes and get 5,000 krill.
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Jcw188
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January 07, 2014, 02:58:16 PM |
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anyone want to buy 6.5 chips for .005 BTC? I just want to cash out and would rather not grind up to the withdrawal minimum. You can see I've been around the forum for a while, I've done a couple deals (check my trust) too.
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Trade101
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January 07, 2014, 03:27:53 PM |
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Krill should be reset every month so that it will be fair for new players and for the site to earn more.
lol terrible idea. A VIP scheme should be an incentive to continue playing on the site for a longer time / reward long-time customers. This would really make zero sense
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